Income tax and freedom! - Page 12

medicineman · #**111** 02-16-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

"socialism" which is administered by anything other than man and his conscience is illusion. you could have no "authority" in a truly "socialistic" system; because of this basic fact i see gvnmnt forced pseudo-socialism as a pig sty of the human condition.

gvnmnt initiated socialism is nothing but a way for the hard worker to be punished and the slacker to be rewarded. as someone mentioned in another thread, it might work in certain EU states because they have a much less diverse culture, but here, in the USA, we have everything from useless slugs to inspired industrious people... while it's a romantic notion to say that opposites attract we all know that opposites also kill each other after a while!

I'm not saying to punish the industrious person, just limit the amount of greed and influence he has over society in general. I think it's alright for some to make more than others, and If you don't want to participate at all, maybe find a state (Arkansas comes to mind) where you could put all the slackers and feed them protein pellets, like fish food to keep them alive. provide no comforts and no rewards unless they show some iniciative, then gradually integrate them into society. On the other end, the Kingfish, need to be taken down a few notches, no more palatial estates with more money than they could burn in a hundred lifetimes. For sure they need to be rewarded for their hard work and sacrifice but limit their wealth and power to no more than ten times the mean average wage. Put some sense and sensebility back into society. The avaricious greed factor is out of control and is making everyone crazy with desire. It's the wannabees that are keeping the insanity alive. If we need a picture of indecent wealth, maybe we could institute a king for a year scenario, where by a lottery type draw, some lucky stiff is rewarded with a palatial existence for a year. Meanwhile, turn all the palatial estates into homeless housing and build low cost housing on all the luxury golf courses, afterall, golf is one of those worthless games enloyed by the Idle rich and Business scoundrels to make illicit deals. I'd say at the current state of affairs and inflation, around a hundred grand per household should be the median wage, or 50 grand per wage earner. Hows that float your boat. At least I'm thinking of ways to improve the general populace, and fuck the rich imperialists (plutocratic ogliarchs) [assholes]!

7xstall · #**112** 02-16-2007, 02:01 PM

i would want more than 50k per year....or, polygamy. that way i get more women and money at the same time. lol, when does that really happen?

the concept is nice, it's a warm fuzzy feeling and all but you still have people deciding, to some extent, the fate of other people rather than leaving it to their own will. that's an open door to corruption.

It's the wannabees that are keeping the insanity alive.

i agree with this, they have a ravenous appetite but no discipline, they just see their idols climbing rungs of the ladder and try to do it themselves, making a mess of everyone they come across.

what do you think would happen if we did away with currency and traded "deeds" and actions only?

medicineman · #**113** 02-16-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

i would want more than 50k per year....or, polygamy. that way i get more women and money at the same time. lol, when does that really happen?

the concept is nice, it's a warm fuzzy feeling and all but you still have people deciding, to some extent, the fate of other people rather than leaving it to their own will. that's an open door to corruption.

It's the wannabees that are keeping the insanity alive.

i agree with this, they have a ravenous appetite but no discipline, they just see their idols climbing rungs of the ladder and try to do it themselves, making a mess of everyone they come across.

what do you think would happen if we did away with currency and traded "deeds" and actions only?

I think society is way too sophisticated to return to the barter system, what would you trade for a quadruple bypass, a lemon tree? ~LOL~. I've watched the Kissasses in life for a good many years, the yes men so to speak. They never rise above a certain level with few exceptions, IE Scooter Libby, GW Bush, etc. If anyone thinks Bush comes up with this shit on his own, they're dillusional. Cheney pulls the strings. If you watch the State of the Union speeches, you'll see Cheney hinging on every word to see if it's delivered right, like a sceptor in the background, waiting to be-head Dubya. We cant impeach Dubya without his two brains, Cheney and Rove!