Income tax and freedom! - Page 10

ViRedd · #91 02-12-2007, 12:13 PM

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If you really have such a tight grasp on history, why are you still spouting communist dogma?

Vi

medicineman · #92 02-12-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

people who are different are fine med, we're all diff. it's the ones who want to kill us that i have a prob with...

Me too! You can't just start Bombing a country based on these idiots intelligence, Bushco and Intelligence are oxymorons, heavy on the morons. What is wrong with talking to their leaders. Why not start a propaganda program letting the people of Iran know that we don't hate them and are not trying to annihilate them. Killing innocents for profit is reprehensible, but is being done as we speak.

7xstall · #93 02-13-2007, 07:36 AM

talking to leaders who smile while holding a baseball bat behind their back sounds like the naive imaginings of a flower child lost in the psychedelic ascents of a 10 strip med...

we have to talk to them indirectly for now; let them earn a spot at the table by ending their support for terrorists killing civilians, stopping illegal nuclear programs, stuff like that..

medicineman · #94 02-13-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

talking to leaders who smile while holding a baseball bat behind their back sounds like the naive imaginings of a flower child lost in the psychedelic ascents of a 10 strip med...

we have to talk to them indirectly for now; let them earn a spot at the table by ending their support for terrorists killing civilians, stopping illegal nuclear programs, stuff like that..

Not true. If we give them respect by holding high level talks and making our presence felt, we can reign in the terrorists. If we offered some carrots on a stick to lead them away from hateful reprisals (the official leaders), I believe we could stem the tide of terrorism. After all, they want recognition, they want control of their countries and they want us out of the middle East. If the people of Iran (The majority) could elect a secular government, they would do so willingly. A secular Government would have to take control of the Mullahs and tame the radicals. This might take years, but by ignoring them and making threats, we are making it worse!

7xstall · #95 02-13-2007, 12:07 PM

iran's people will not be able to have a secular gvnmnt, the islamic revolution insured that. they will have to have another bloody revolution and throw out the concept of the ayatolla.

they could get a seat at the table right now, today, if they stood up against violence in the middle east as a way to further their cause. they arm and train too many radicals to even consider them (Iran) a potential tablemate. therefor, they must sit on the sidelines and accept what we, the civilized world, decide to give them...

medicineman · #96 02-13-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

iran's people will not be able to have a secular gvnmnt, the islamic revolution insured that. they will have to have another bloody revolution and throw out the concept of the ayatolla.

they could get a seat at the table right now, today, if they stood up against violence in the middle east as a way to further their cause. they arm and train too many radicals to even consider them (Iran) a potential tablemate. therefor, they must sit on the sidelines and accept what we, the civilized world, decide to give them...

I'm confused, we the civilized world, you mean the ones that drop bombs from 35,000 feet and use cluster bombs, napalm and other horrific weapons on civilians, yeah, we're really civilized. It seems you've led a sheltered life. sometime step up to the real world and read about what horrific things the United States have done in the name of Freedom.

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7xstall · #97 02-13-2007, 04:26 PM

ok, do you need me to send you pics of gassed kurds, kids blown up by martyr attacks, 9/11, USS cole, Nigerian embassy, 3/11 madrid, london, raped children. it's all the fault of the US isn't it med? we "made" them so evil with our foreign policy didn't we? the US is a terrible place isn't it med...we caused all the problems in the world but if we just had a dem president it would all be ok...

medicineman · #98 02-13-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

ok, do you need me to send you pics of gassed kurds, kids blown up by martyr attacks, 9/11, USS cole, Nigerian embassy, 3/11 madrid, london, raped children. it's all the fault of the US isn't it med? we "made" them so evil with our foreign policy didn't we? the US is a terrible place isn't it med...we caused all the problems in the world but if we just had a dem president it would all be ok...

Again, 2 wrongs dont make a right, 3rd grade logic! You are being sarcastic and won't look at the damage we (USA) have done to others. We my friend, are not the innocents you percieve. All the damage we've done world wide was done in the name of freedom. Freedom from communism, freedom from marxism, freedom for S. Vietnamese, Freedom for Iraqis, etc.. It is the largest bowl of crap ever foisted on the world. We are "fighting for Iraqis freedom" while quashing our own freedoms at home. The Irony is abundant. Can not you see this?

7xstall · #99 02-13-2007, 04:51 PM

yeah, i know we are just "the enemy" to the other side...i'm fine with that status too. they are the ones bringing this madness to us, they started it in the 70s and they keep getting worse.

someone, something will always stand in opposition to a system like ours, a system where men and women are given a chance to be more.

medicineman · #**100** 02-13-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

yeah, i know we are just "the enemy" to the other side...i'm fine with that status too. they are the ones bringing this madness to us, they started it in the 70s and they keep getting worse.

someone, something will always stand in opposition to a system like ours, a system where men and women are given a chance to be more.

It's not the people of the USA, it's the Military industrial complex that has been gaining strength since the 50s.