Congresswoman on Palin's "Hit List" shot
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medicineman
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What a convoluted theory, that being a liberal means you want to give up your individual liberty. If anything, us liberals are more concerned with our liberty than any conservative. Who do you think marched in the streets in the 70s, conservatives? Hell no, it was us liberals, us freedom loving individuals that wanted the idiotic war in Viet Nam to end. It was us pothead liberals that wanted the military off campuses, wanted the National Guard off the campus rallies, We marched for freedom. Just what have you conservative jokers ever marched for, more money for you, less money to the poor, no medical for the poor, come on, quit with the lying bullshit, the only thing you conservatives are concerned about is your money, fuck everything else and everyone else.
medicineman
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Tragedy or not, it seems you guys on the right want to run away from any rhetorical blame. I'm sorry Doc, but the rhetorical blame, if any, lies strictly on the right. accept it, get over it, and let's move on to a more positive rhetorical stance. Instead of speaking about shooting your opponent, how about telling the public what great things you are going to do if elected and then stick to them. Instead of saying what a prick your opponent is, why not tell us what a great guy/Gal you are. I'll bet the public would respond with the appropriate enthusiasm.With all due respect to the Sherrif, we have no idea what his political leanings are. Also, his job is to enforce the law, not order people what they can and can't say. I think we can all agree that the political tone is a bit nutty right now. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle this guy's loyalties were. It doesn't matter if he is a communist or an anarchist. He is a psycho murderer and needs to be dealt with, period! The finger pointing has to stop. Especially if we are blaming the political tone, finger pointing doesn't serve to do anything but put people on the defensive. Where was security? Police? Where were they? From what little I've heard, it sounds like it was civilians who jumped him when his second mag jammed.
Johnnyorganic
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It's irrelevant, Buck.
Vitriol is vitriol.
You want to make a big deal of it because Palin is prominent. But Prominent Democrats do the same thing. Again, irrelevant because it is the level of violent language in the discourse which is supposedly the 'problem.'
Thankfully the whole issue is dying a quick death as the facts regarding the lunatic are revealed.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0112/As-portrait-of-Jared-Loughner-sharpens-vitriol-blame-fades
I most certainly do NOT use your method of selective quoting. I quote the entire statement, or none at all. I may break it up and insert my opinions, but it's all there.
I may choose to not address a every point in a post if I think they are beneath response, irrelevant, or otherwise unworthy of a response.
You, on the other hand, cherry-pick a quote out of context and typically address only that quote in an entire post.
And I miss the bold too.
Kudos, to you (or your better half) for catching the GWTW reference. Ms. de Havilland is the only living (major) cast member from that film. Have you or your wife ever read the book? Level Seven Awesome.
Congrats on the harvest. Looks yummy.
medicineman
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you know what makes bickering and spurring with a man of intellect such as yourself all the better? bickering and spurring with you while drinking beer and pulling a long-awaited harvest. not much more trimming to go....
That ought to pay the rent for a couple a months, eh? Uhhh, I question the man of intellect part though.
That ought to pay the rent for a couple a months, eh? Uhhh, I question the man of intellect part though.
It's irrelevant, Buck.
Vitriol is vitriol.
You want to make a big deal of it because Palin is prominent. But Prominent Democrats do the same thing. Again, irrelevant because it is the level of violent language in the discourse which is supposedly the 'problem.'
Thankfully the whole issue is dying a quick death as the facts regarding the lunatic are revealed.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0112/As-portrait-of-Jared-Loughner-sharpens-vitriol-blame-fades
I most certainly do NOT use your method of selective quoting. I quote the entire statement, or none at all. I may break it up and insert my opinions, but it's all there.
I may choose to not address a every point in a post if I think they are beneath response, irrelevant, or otherwise unworthy of a response.
You, on the other hand, cherry-pick a quote out of context and typically address only that quote in an entire post.
And I miss the bold too.
Kudos, to you (or your better half) for catching the GWTW reference. Ms. de Havilland is the only living (major) cast member from that film. Have you or your wife ever read the book? Level Seven Awesome.
Congrats on the harvest. Looks yummy.
you do notice that the only evidence of this guys non-political affiliation is the interview from an estranged high school friend who breaks down mid-interview because he felt guilt for not keeping in touch with the nutjob....
so no real details have really sharpened....
the little information available says that this guy was mentally unstable, the guy was politically active, and that he had a gun.
that's it........
Johnnyorganic
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So... ACTUAL evidence that he avoided political media is trumped by NO EVIDENCE that he was influenced by all the vitriol.
Got it.
Johnnyorganic
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I am not revising history and you cannot prove otherwise.
If I have made revisions to my opinion, they have conformed to the facts as they have emerged.
Which is more than I can say for SOME Proggies who happily declared the Right guilty immediately and have not altered that opinion IN SPITE of the emerging facts.
Yeah, really.
I used that link specifically because the CSM is an established and well-known Liberal rag.
Hudsonvalley82
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This is priceless and horrible all at once
Patrick Bateman
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Too lazy to read what's been posted thus far
Blaming the actions of a deranged individual on either party is irresponsible and does disservice to the real discussions we need to be having
Although placing crosshairs over districts and calling for "2nd amendment remedies" is in poor taste and borders on lunacy, there is no tangible evidence to suggest the killer was acting on anything specific besides his own insane thoughts
Blaming the actions of a deranged individual on either party is irresponsible and does disservice to the real discussions we need to be having
Although placing crosshairs over districts and calling for "2nd amendment remedies" is in poor taste and borders on lunacy, there is no tangible evidence to suggest the killer was acting on anything specific besides his own insane thoughts
doc111
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Ya know med, I'm glad you posted this. Has anyone heard this news story about one of the victims of the Tuscon shooting being arrested after a town hall styled, televised program talking about the shooting? I just came acrossed this and thought it was pretty ironic. Enjoy!
http://www.rgj.com/article/20110116/NEWS12/110116010/-1/CARSON/Arizona-shooting-victim-arrested-taken-to-hospital-watch-video-
[video=youtube;SHFYqTfe-ek]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHFYqTfe-ek[/video]
Yeah, it's only the right who has a problem with "hate talk".
UncleBuck
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this point has been argued to death already (woops, did i say death?)So, nobody's going to respond to this Leftwing nutjob threatening the Tea Party leader? I guess it's ok when it's a liberal making the death threats.
my question is: does he have a national media platform and millions of devoted followers?
also, i challenge you to find all the videos you can of left wing nut jobs. for every one you find, i will easily find two right wing nutjobs. caveat: the right wing nutjobs i post will often be in a position of greater influence than the loners you find.
Meh the guy said"You're Dead". Not much of a threat if you ask me. He should have said " Someday your gonna die." instead so he wouldn't have gotten arrested.So, nobody's going to respond to this Leftwing nutjob threatening the Tea Party leader? I guess it's ok when it's a liberal making the death threats.
Had to go to a mental evaluation, isn't that what they did to Britney?
Watch the video, they execute this guy and his wife.Nicolae Ceausescu
