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Old 12-20-2007, 08:42 PM
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One of the costliest losing wars in history. I think Drugs won.
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One of the costliest losing wars in history. I think Drugs won.
The government won the war on drugs. ANYTHING that employs people is good, if you are a bureaucrat. D.A.R.E. is the worst example I can think of. There is no proof that it does anything useful, and costs millions of dollars to administer. If we ignored drugs, how many government people would be out of work?

Same thing with other useless policies.

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The drug was isn't a war against drugs at all. Its a war against the American people. Through the drug war, and the federal income tax system, we have lost our once cherished financial privacy. Privacy lost is liberty lost.

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The government won the war on drugs. ANYTHING that employs people is good, if you are a bureaucrat. D.A.R.E. is the worst example I can think of. There is no proof that it does anything useful, and costs millions of dollars to administer. If we ignored drugs, how many government people would be out of work?

Same thing with other useless policies.
If the govt. won, why are drugs more plentiful now than 20 years ago? Drugs won. Granted there are more enforcement personel than ever, but that just shows drugs are winning as no matter how many enforcers they put out there, Drugs will find a way around them. BTW, do you realize the unemployment that would result in legalization. There is a whole industry built on illegality. Ever wonder what the real price of drugs are. The price without the inflation caused by the legal status. I heard once it cost about a dollar an OZ to produce 90 percent pure Cocaine. I think at one time in the 60s I read in Rolling stone or some such mag. that dentists paid like 12 bucks an OZ for pharma coke. How much would commercial weed cost, 5.00 a Lb.? If you saw that picture of the afghan pot forest. 10 ft high plants for as far as the eye could see, you'd know how prolific pot is if left out in the open. :
Taliban Smoked Out of Pot Forest

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Note to self: when fighting militants in a giant forest made of pot, it's best not to try to burn the place down (unless you've got time to make a run for some munchies, that is).
Canadian troops in Afghanistan found this out the hard way.
Reuters reports the troops were fighting Taliban militants when they were met with a greener, more potent enemy: a 10-foot-tall marijuana forest.
The Taliban fighters were using the dense thicket of plants for cover, so the troops were forced to eliminate the weedy threat.
"The challenge is that marijuana plants absorb energy and heat very readily. It's very difficult to penetrate with thermal devices ... and as a result you really have to be careful that the Taliban don't dodge in and out of those marijuana forests," General Rick Hillier said in a speech in Ottawa.
"A couple of brown plants on the edges of some of those (forests) did catch on fire. But a section of soldiers that was downwind from that had some ill effects and decided that was probably not the right course of action," Hiller said.
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"If the govt. won, why are drugs more plentiful now than 20 years ago? Drugs won. Granted there are more enforcement personal than ever, but that just shows drugs are winning as no matter how many enforcers they put out there, Drugs will find a way around them. BTW, do you realize the unemployment that would result in legalization. There is a whole industry built on illegality. Ever wonder what the real price of drugs are. The price without the inflation caused by the legal status."

Really? You are a smart man and this was hardly your best work.

The point is simple, the 'war on drugs' is a bureaucracy making money. It achieved it's primary goal; Employ gumshoes. You did make one good point however, there would be a trickle-down effect (I know you love this term). But, instead of positive money flow, it would be reverse money flow, for awhile. Then positive money flow in another economic sector.

Taking a hatchet to the bureaucracy, at any point in the knotted chain, always has the same reverse affect. The worst would be to downsize the IRS with any kind of flat-tax solution. If poor slubs, like presumably you and I, did not have to file a long form annually, there would be hell to pay. First, you put a bunch of useless attorneys and accounts out on the street. Then bookkeepers. Computer programmers are next. H&R Block, RIP. Sales of office supplies, like folders and file cabinets would plummet. Do you have ANY concept of how many trees would be spared with ANY flat-tax solution?

Funny thing about these ideas is that every one of them increases the Gross National Product. Because, right now, employed bookkeepers and jail guards ad nothing to production. If their jobs are eliminated, they have to go find work in the private sector. Perhaps, even make something, of real value, that is sold by a large nasty corporation. For a PROFIT!!!

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