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Goose42

Goose42

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Rob Roy said:
I appreciate your being polite, but the term "hero" is a bit watered down these days. Potential cannon fodder is always sold the hero
kool aid. It's what got young Japanese guys to become Kamikazes. Works in any country since the beginning of time.

Please step off your pedestal for a moment and consider that your love of country etc. and your belief that people that are in the military are heroes is exactly what those who direct your actions want you to think, it's easier to manipulate "heroes" than independent thinkers.

Education ? There are many people that have attended expensive schools with fine degrees that remain uneducated. You can become educated in the truth, all it takes is an open mind and ability to sift the bullshit. Or are you one of those "heroes" who'll come home and get a "free education" and an associates degree in criminal justice so you can become the local police chief in Podunkville USA...is that your plan? Then you can continue to "serve your country" and arrest people, like um most of us in this forum eh? Is that the kind of "freedom" you want to protect?

Sticking to your guns ? Even when you admit that you would be a bully if those who stroke your ego and call you a hero demand you to kill innocent people? If Christians have been killing Muslims for years aren't they breaking one of the ten comandments? Or is god wearing a TEAM USA t-shirt and will sign off on the killing of THOSE people?

There are lots of families that get their "heroes" returned in flag draped coffins or see their families blown up in the streets by invading U.S. troops. When innocent civilians or soldiers from either side die, there are no heroes. Only dead people that didn't need to die. Wake up son. Your education here is free. Lesson one is now over.
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I guess all of that is super easy to type from behind a computer screen. I put my thoughts up here, not because i think im a bad ass, but because it is a political debate forum. The fact that we have time to sit around and argue it means that none of us actually knows the truth. If you wanna debate thats cool, but you are just a dick. Im not a republican, and Im currently one year away from an engineering degree. Just because someone has lived a completely different life from you doesn't make them stupid. And don't call me son, I'm probably quite a bit older than you lol
 
*BUDS

*BUDS

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Viagro said:
For too long there has been hidden from the light of day all sorts of egregious deeds, hidden behind spurious claims of protecting national security. There are traitors and war criminals and corrupt officials scrambling to shut Wikileaks down...I wonder why? I'm with Daniel Ellsberg on this.

Let the sunshine in.
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theres no crimes committed here only egos bruised, he can do this if he wants, on the other hand he looks like a snivelling little weisel.The kind of guy who at school is running to principals office to dob you in,as u run behind kicking him up the ass.
 
assasinofyouth420

assasinofyouth420

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Everybody is acting like America is the only country that has dirty secrets like this. I bet our shit is pretty mild compared to what some other countries are doing. But we will probably never know. Cause they can keep their shit a secret.
 
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NoDrama

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Che Paddy said:
This thread is hilarious. The guy is a hero. Fair play to him shedding light on all the shady shit going on. It makes me laugh every time someone gives a reference to Our Enemies. Your Enemies? An idea put in Americans heads by Rupert Murdoch and other such scumbags who dictate what is fed to the masses on CNN, Sky news and other such bullshit. Its a one sided argument that is drilled into you.
Take that soldier that fucked up all those people with his Apache gunship. Im sure everyone has seen the clip. Well that never made CNN or SKY when it happened. But daily we hear about suicide bombers killing loads of people. After a while of course you start to believe they're enemies. I took my first trip to the US last February. When I arrived in the hotel I turned on the TV and couldn't believe how diluted your news is. In Europe its less one sided and definitely more graphic. Still bullshit and selective information.

And in fairness the main point of the whole lot is that if the US werent invading and starting wars on Terror or whatever smokescreen they want to use in order to make money then this thread wouldnt even exist.

At some stage in every coverup there needs to be a whistleblower and this guy happens to be one on a legendary status. I say keep up the good work,

(P.S I under stand im going to be verbally abused for the next page or two but I am intitaled to my opinion and as I understand a forum is a place to voice opinions. I have nothing against US citizens on an individual basis but more against the likes Members of the Bilderberg and Trialteral commission who use the US and wars in order to line their pockets)
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Your opinion of US news and the USA sounds like a well informed, objective and poignant view. I really couldn't agree more.
 
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NoDrama

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The problem with Muslims and Christians is as basic as this: The Muslim religion has no tolerance for NON muslims, anyone who does not consider Allah God, and Muhammad as the Messenger of god are considered Evil and should be eradicated/killed.

Christians on the other hand have no tolerance for anyone who does not believe in Jesus as the savior of the world, but instead of bringing death they try to bring conversions.

So, Muslims want to kill everyone else and Christians want to convert everyone else. There can never be peace when these juggernauts keep running headlong into each other. They will both use "God" as justification for their bloody deeds.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Goose42 said:
I guess all of that is super easy to type from behind a computer screen. I put my thoughts up here, not because i think im a bad ass, but because it is a political debate forum. The fact that we have time to sit around and argue it means that none of us actually knows the truth. If you wanna debate thats cool, but you are just a dick. Im not a republican, and Im currently one year away from an engineering degree. Just because someone has lived a completely different life from you doesn't make them stupid. And don't call me son, I'm probably quite a bit older than you lol
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Sorry you found "son" derogatory. How about this, "Wake up guy that thinks he's older than me, but probably isn't." I probably have roach clips older than you, lol. Whether I'm a dick or not is debateable, but I'm pretty comfortable with the truth and don't mind pointing it out. You seem to leave the debate quickly for the ad hominem attacks, so I'll be the first to apologize if I offended you .

You as much as admitted that being a bully was justifiable...how so?

As far as none of us knowing the truth, I'll disagree, the truth is what it is. Assange isn't telling the world anything surprising, governments are corrupt. In many cases "the truth" is government lies and kills people as part of its business model, your failure to acknowledge that and your loyalty to a flawed cause won't change that. I never said you were stupid either, I will say you might be willfully ignorant and confused in your loyalty to a bullies cause. How do you become a hero again if your acts are fulfilling the role of a bully?

Anyhow humor me, and tell me which of my points you disagree with ?
 
canuckgrow

canuckgrow

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Just have a deep down funny feeling that this whole thing is staged so we can crack down on all the pesky whistleblowers. I could be wrong and this Assange could be a real dude just trying to get the info out in the open but it all seems a little like a reality TV show with everyone's lines coming at the right time. Opponents of Wikileaks screaming of how much danger it puts peoples lives in. Assange with his legal troubles all of a sudden going into overdrive. I expect a story shortly of the horrible consequences of the release of the documents. Thats when they will grab him and take him for a nice little ride on a plane real close to Florida,,,,, Like about 90 miles or so.
 
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