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Old 12-15-2007, 02:42 PM
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Well, I guess you just sumed up the most idiotic post ever on this site. "bring it on" was a smart thing to say by the dumbest asshole to ever inhabit the oval office,~LOL~, the only person I have witnessed dumber than Bush is possibly you. George Bush is a great man and will be rendered the greatest president of all times. That is even dumber. I should have known you were a wannabee rich prick dumbass when you said you were coming from abject poverty to be a rich asshole within a couple of years. I should have garnered from your pusilanimous puke of thread posting that you were an imbecile and this last post just affirmed my contention. From now on, I will only see your posts as the ramblings of a moron, hey I tried to give you creedence, but you my friend are a typical wannabee and a dumbass. Sorry.
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:46 PM
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In all seriousness, what does the confidence of an American soldier carrying a gun in a foreign place we had no business invading have anything to do with whether or not he should be there from a policy standpoint?

If this has nothing to do with policy, what does it matter in terms of the debate?

Aren't you really telling me I should watch my mouth because an American over in Iraq shooting people is defending my right, not to criticize (as this would harm the morale of the people who have no internet access to these sites, especially not to this one) but to choose to shut my mouth out of politeness while my Constitution gets trampled in the name of fighting a foreign enemy?

You can see why no one [demanding rational argument] regards this as a legitimate thing to hark back to. "Shut up"--even sugar-coated-- is simply not an argument, even if you're trying to peddle it off as for a good cause.

I think people should totally disregard war propaganda like "Support the Troops," "Homeland," "War on Terrorism" and start thinking beyond the confines of engineered labels.

What signs of political progress are there? I failed to see any...

Even if certain victory were three years away, I would abandon this as it is immoral to continue to spend this country into bondage any longer. Freeing Iraq was and is not worth American bankruptcy and it certainly hasn't been worth 30,000 wounded or killed Americans. Anyone so extremely convinced of the justice of hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and of the transformation of Iraq into a terror-state through the American invasion and its necessity in light of no evidence confirming Saddam Hussein was any more than a threatening character, has completely lost it in my opinion.

Your arguments boil down to this: We should stay as long as it takes until President Bush or his successor decide that Iraq is safe enough to leave, regardless of the cost in treasure and lives because, disregarding all of the truths listed above, it is either a) the right thing to do, b) the only thing we can do to make sure that no other terrorists (mad at the US for what they view as occupation and an overextension of power on their turf) "follow us home," or both a) and b).

No timetables, no definition of victory except some sort of democratic stability, no way to get there but patience.

This is and always has been rubbish, and it's sad they have otherwise bright people tricked into thinking that fighting to fight is worthy and worthwhile. If they were taxing you instead of borrowing all the money you might have objected, I suppose.
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We have simply bought (charged) a $2.4 trillion car without wheels. What a stupid fucking investment.
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Well, I guess you just sumed up the most idiotic post ever on this site. "bring it on" was a smart thing to say by the dumbest asshole to ever inhabit the oval office,~LOL~, the only person I have witnessed dumber than Bush is possibly you. George Bush is a great man and will be rendered the greatest president of all times. That is even dumber. I should have known you were a wannabee rich prick dumbass when you said you were coming from abject poverty to be a rich asshole within a couple of years. I should have garnered from your pusilanimous puke of thread posting that you were an imbecile and this last post just affirmed my contention. From now on, I will only see your posts as the ramblings of a moron, hey I tried to give you creedence, but you my friend are a typical wannabee and a dumbass. Sorry.

once again medi you have read a post of mine of undeniable eloquence and have no retort. I uderstand your frustration which is appearnt in the above reply, as you really cannot call it a rebuttle, i stand correct.

you sit angry about it


its also quite clear you have a complex concerning monetary wealth where you judge poeple by thier financial assets as opposed to the content of thier character.

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I realize it is way above your comprehension, But just why are you equating me with terrorists? The main terrorists on this planet are members of this US government. I realize your brain is not capable of understanding this for some unknown reason, maybe you are just stupid. It's a pure fact that most of your flag waving bullshit on this site comes from a very limited understanding of what is really going on in the world, I mean, come on, you still think the war in Iraq is about terror for christ sake. I guess when God passed out brains you were off in the corner masterbating,~LOL~.
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In all seriousness, what does the confidence of an American soldier carrying a gun in a foreign place we had no business invading have anything to do with whether or not he should be there from a policy standpoint?

If this has nothing to do with policy, what does it matter in terms of the debate?

Aren't you really telling me I should watch my mouth because an American over in Iraq shooting people is defending my right, not to criticize (as this would harm the morale of the people who have no internet access to these sites, especially not to this one) but to choose to shut my mouth out of politeness while my Constitution gets trampled in the name of fighting a foreign enemy?

You can see why no one [demanding rational argument] regards this as a legitimate thing to hark back to. "Shut up"--even sugar-coated-- is simply not an argument, even if you're trying to peddle it off as for a good cause.

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What signs of political progress are there? I failed to see any...

Even if certain victory were three years away, I would abandon this as it is immoral to continue to spend this country into bondage any longer. Freeing Iraq was and is not worth American bankruptcy and it certainly hasn't been worth 30,000 wounded or killed Americans. Anyone so extremely convinced of the justice of hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and of the transformation of Iraq into a terror-state through the American invasion and its necessity in light of no evidence confirming Saddam Hussein was any more than a threatening character, has completely lost it in my opinion.

Your arguments boil down to this: We should stay as long as it takes until President Bush or his successor decide that Iraq is safe enough to leave, regardless of the cost in treasure and lives because, disregarding all of the truths listed above, it is either a) the right thing to do, b) the only thing we can do to make sure that no other terrorists (mad at the US for what they view as occupation and an overextension of power on their turf) "follow us home," or both a) and b).

No timetables, no definition of victory except some sort of democratic stability, no way to get there but patience.

This is and always has been rubbish, and it's sad they have otherwise bright people tricked into thinking that fighting to fight is worthy and worthwhile. If they were taxing you instead of borrowing all the money you might have objected, I suppose.
If your friend was stabbed with a knife...would you pull the knife out instantly, killing your friend? Really, if you insist that just because the knife..or the US Military wasn't SUPPOSED to be there in the first place, that we should rip it out regardless of the consequences? All in the name of restoring "what is right?" What is right is to have a REAL plan for success. You saythat you wouldn't let the war go on if there was CERTAIN success...much like you would not take your friend to the hospital for his knife wound, because it would "take too long." You have a one-track mind, with no regard to the blowback that will occur. Go ahead...rip the knife out.
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Old 12-15-2007, 07:03 PM
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Well, I guess you just sumed up the most idiotic post ever on this site. "bring it on" was a smart thing to say by the dumbest asshole to ever inhabit the oval office,~LOL~, the only person I have witnessed dumber than Bush is possibly you. George Bush is a great man and will be rendered the greatest president of all times. That is even dumber. I should have known you were a wannabee rich prick dumbass when you said you were coming from abject poverty to be a rich asshole within a couple of years. I should have garnered from your pusilanimous puke of thread posting that you were an imbecile and this last post just affirmed my contention. From now on, I will only see your posts as the ramblings of a moron, hey I tried to give you creedence, but you my friend are a typical wannabee and a dumbass. Sorry.
I'm not about to take on the uphill battle of defending Bush, nor would I ever agree with it...but you have to understand that "APPROVAL RATINGS" are not "PERFORMANCE RATINGS" you keep an avatar and a monotone horn at your lips all day long "blah blah blah elites blah blah Bush sucks blah blah there is enough money to go around blah blah" and it never stops. Critisize Bush, fine, but don't come knocking on my door for when you need to explain yourself.
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its also quite clear you have a complex concerning monetary wealth where you judge poeple by thier financial assets as opposed to the content of thier character.

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Old 12-15-2007, 07:36 PM
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its also quite clear you have a complex concerning monetary wealth where you judge poeple by thier financial assets as opposed to the content of thier character.

Show me some intellect then I can judge. I could give a fuck how much money you have, spend it wisely. I just believe that people without much money (in general) are no worse than rich people and most assuredly not as selfish or cranky with the rest of the world. I really get peeved by superior attitudes like Hey I did it, everyone can. That is absolutely false. If everyone could do it, they would, wouldn't it make sense. Not everyone can be a brain surgeon, a stock analyst, or an airlines pilot. There are not enough high paying good jobs to go around, so that theory is shot to pieces. There are drug dealers that make more than the presidents salary, but there is only room for so many drug dealers. To make the world go round, you need bus drivers, ditch diggers and carpenters, etc. Those jobs don't do rich. So stop with the everyone can be rich bullshit, the already rich are hoarding the money, you have to be driven and lucky, did I forget the lucky part, I did.
BTW, how do you judge character from a web site? I can see stupid.
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