Read what I said and tell me why you think that I am wrong.

From your pik you don't look human and I see a screw loose in the back, please give GK a screwdriver so he can git behind you and screw you up tight as he likes to swing free sometimes.

Please explain why a photon isn't energy? Then why you think I don't differentiate it?

Because a photon contains energy it is not the same thing as energy. The container is not equal to the contents. You are not even arguing about what I am saying. You're telling me I'm wrong and then start talking about something completely different.

and thanks for the ad hominem - very classy.

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I think I might see where the problem lies ... your arguments are assuming that the Earth would remain the same if the Sun went out - and my arguments are assuming what would happen if the Sun were no longer emitting any energy.

But you still through that red herring in there about the sun and everything emitting more than just visible light. But i was limiting my argument to visible light and my next post made that very clear.

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I thank your hard drive went floppy. I didn't assume anything if the world changed as in the end of life, than as I said there would be no visible light at all, how could there be? Without a human to see than visible light could not be. I used both sides as you did not make it clear what you were talking about and I'm not sure you know eather as it still is not clear.

You think coming up with crap like the sun going out would make anything clear?

So your answer is a photon a container?

Does it have mass?

You didn't go back and read what I said eather. Hell I don't know what I said but you have yet to prove to me that you know what a photon is. Try again.

Read your words where you say the earth can't produce light.

You should think on this.
I was playing a bit, read what I said but YOU stated that the earth can't produce light. Do you really think this?

I agree I left out the all important "without the sun" clause.

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What you should have left out was the knowing something about light.

As I stated a photon can be absorbed by the moon it also can be emited the act of being absorbed or assimilated makes it a part of the moon, being emited means the moon emits light, without the sun there are still the stars and this prossess still happens.

That aside you have the piezoelectric effect where some 20 types of crystals, quartz being the most abundant and is a common part of sandstone, limestone and granite and many other rocks be they igneous, metamorphic or sedimentary. When pressure is applied to these rocks it generates a voltage causing an electric field which gives off a corona [this corona is what breaks down transformers, capacitors and igniters or more truly the insulation.] which can be seen as it gives off photons in the range of 400nm----700nm. This effect has been noted at fault sites before earthquakes, this corona effect can and has been seen in daylight.

Pyroelectric effects are the same but are caused by heat not pressure.

Do you think that there is a lack heat or pressure in the earth?

Have you ever noted that volcanoes eruptions give off magma? Have you not noted that magma gives off light?
Do you think that mars has a volcano?

Do you know that plasma is all over space.

Do you think that I have more than just started on the ways that light can be produced without the sun?

While you may suspect some things about light I have yet to note that you know anything about it.

Well May it hurts to say this but you are right - I didn't know enough about light to make the absolute assertions I did. While I would have preferred an insult-free and less condescending education, I appreciate learning something through any means so I thank you.

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The truth is you understand and will remember better because of the added crap, if you had read just the last post you would not given it much thought. You see you wanted to find me wrong, and the truth also is none of it was heart felt, it was just a way to make you work harder and impress it into your mind by making you think.

I expect no thanks but you are welcome.