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Old 12-04-2007, 04:07 PM
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dropped the ball in New Orleans? or dropped the hammer?

hey mockingbird:
it's because we citizens are sympathetic about our fellow americans that we tend to think those in office are too. slick, rich, double talking, secret agenda polititions don't give a fuck about you and me. they dont care about america. they dont care about americans. they dont give a fuck about blacks in new orleans. and they will capitilize on any disaster.

when you pull your head out of the sand and realize polititions dont give a fuck about you or your family and will sell this country out for a big paycheck, the problems in this nation will become clearer. until you understand the problem, the solutions you and others come up with wont fix jack.
And that's is why, no matter how she would try, Naomi wouldn't be able to point to the section in the Constitution that authorizes the federal government to give disaster aid to the states. It doesn't exist.

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If any of you can point to the section in the Consitution that authorizes federal disaster relief, please do.

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dropped the ball in New Orleans? or dropped the hammer?

hey mockingbird:
it's because we citizens are sympathetic about our fellow americans that we tend to think those in office are too. slick, rich, double talking, secret agenda polititions don't give a fuck about you and me. they dont care about america. they dont care about americans. they dont give a fuck about blacks in new orleans. and they will capitilize on any disaster.

when you pull your head out of the sand and realize polititions dont give a fuck about you or your family and will sell this country out for a big paycheck, the problems in this nation will become clearer. until you understand the problem, the solutions you and others come up with wont fix jack.
Closet, a bit rash with me aren't you? I don't have my head is in the sand. Understand the problem? I have been there and seen problems with my own eyes. And, I do realize that many politicians prefer to slither about instead of walking with men.

But, seriously, what amazes me about the New Orleans event was the complete and total FUBAR that occurred. FUBAR is a military term, if you wish to look it up. Never in my life have I seen a worse scenario of events. I have to agree completely with medicineman. Something I have never done before. This disaster must have been planned or else every swinging dick in the bayou was high smoken crawdads and sucking on boiled peanuts.

And in Washington, did they close the Pentagon? The USS Hope (or her sister ship) were in dock at Philadelphia. At least a couple quick aid ships were in Norfolk. Air medical aid and MASH troops were in San Antonio. All of these resources should have been redeployed into the theater. Yet nothing was done. Why?

The situation was the worst of the worst. But, that was NOT why I posted. The reason for the post was to refute and discredit the whore-monger Naomi and her half-truths. I despise liars and demagogs. That is why I can't stand GrowRebel. He is a poorly educated and insincere demagog.
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And that's is why, no matter how she would try, Naomi wouldn't be able to point to the section in the Constitution that authorizes the federal government to give disaster aid to the states. It doesn't exist.

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What the hell does that have to do with her book ... it's about the shock ... and control not who is suppose to handle disasters ...
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GrowRebel. He is a poorly educated and insincere demagog.
Well then sit the fuck down asshole ... I have enough edumaction to know a pot calling a kettle black ... It's not my problem that you can't comprehend the truth ...
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Old 12-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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Try thinking outside of your little self imposed box once in awhile.

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Closet, a bit rash with me aren't you? I don't have my head is in the sand. Understand the problem? I have been there and seen problems with my own eyes. And, I do realize that many politicians prefer to slither about instead of walking with men.

But, seriously, what amazes me about the New Orleans event was the complete and total FUBAR that occurred. FUBAR is a military term, if you wish to look it up. Never in my life have I seen a worse scenario of events. I have to agree completely with medicineman. Something I have never done before. This disaster must have been planned or else every swinging dick in the bayou was high smoken crawdads and sucking on boiled peanuts.
I ask how can you be amazed? Do you understand why FUBAR is a military term? Do you truly think that the goverment or the military in any unexpected scenario is not a FUBAR in the making? When I was in the army it was cluster fuck and i'm sure at times I must have added to it.
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And in Washington, did they close the Pentagon? The USS Hope (or her sister ship) were in dock at Philadelphia. At least a couple quick aid ships were in Norfolk. Air medical aid and MASH troops were in San Antonio. All of these resources should have been redeployed into the theater. Yet nothing was done. Why?
You don't seem to understand how things work in the real world, what would have a ship/s done? What mechanism would have been used to bring in the troops? [Ask Vi about this]


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The situation was the worst of the worst. But, that was NOT why I posted. The reason for the post was to refute and discredit the whore-monger Naomi and her half-truths. I despise liars and demagogs. That is why I can't stand GrowRebel. He is a poorly educated and insincere demagog.
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I'll respond to your three points.

Yes all government is a FUBAR. But what happened in New Orleans is beyond the pale, even for dysfunctional government. So I accept medicinemans alligation of planning to fail, as class warfare, as possible.

What mechanism for deployment? A very good question. Either assign it to training, suspend posse comtatidis? I don't really know how it could have been done legally. However, resources set idle, that would have lessened the extreme hardship. The administration could have crafted some solution.

Nagin? Ain't he a piece of work? Or shit? Did Naomi overlook the black, democratic mayor, and focus on the many failures of white republicans? She is pandering racism. Nagin had several hundred school buses he refused to use in an evacuation effort. His excuse was he did not want them damaged. So most were destroyed in the hurricane. Those buses died where they sat. People died because of the terrible flood waters.

I seldom use the c-word, but, Naomi Cunt seems to fit here.
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Try thinking outside of your little self imposed box once in awhile.

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His life could improve if he tried thinking IN his box. Or his house. Or his mommie's car.

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I'll respond to your three points.

Yes all government is a FUBAR. But what happened in New Orleans is beyond the pale, even for dysfunctional government. So I accept medicinemans alligation of planning to fail, as class warfare, as possible.
The way the US is setup, the failure was at the state and local level as you have said and it was the dems that failed, and have and will use this ammo in their class warfare. Have they not used this so? Was nagin removed from office? Who won the propaganda war?
 

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