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Dankdude · #11 12-23-2006, 05:26 AM

I doubt your facts vi and I stick to my guns that it was needed at the time in history.

medicineman · #12 12-23-2006, 10:35 AM

[quote=ViRedd;28023]"But Historically you have to look at the New Deal, It was what was needed at the time"

How does that squrare with the fact that there were more unemployed at the start of FDR's third term than at the beginning of his first term? All of those unconstitutional programs intended to end the depression did not have the intended effect. Instead, they increased the power and the scope of the federal government. Like I said ... weasels.

Vi[/q Hey Vi, you were a kid, or maybe even not born when FDR (The greatest president of modern times) enacted his work programs. FDR cared about the Human condition, unlike Hoover whom he replaced. Do you know there were cardboard shacks on the grass surrounding the lincoln memorial and the washington monument when Hoover was in. Hooverville shanties I believe they were called. Roosevelt started us on the climb out of the depression with the WPA, of course the real catalyst was WWII, But with any more of your libertarian governance, ALA Hoover, we probably would be a third world nation. Herbert Hoover was the epitomy of the Libertarian movement. Looking out for corporations and big money, while the little guys ate shit. I believe this is your almighty motto, Fuck the poor, they're not smart enough to deserve any better. FDR saved America and there is no refuting this that makes one bit of sense, Do you ever wonder where we would be today without FDR. There would be Masters and slaves, I think this is what you envision for your world, anyway thats my two cents worth, Rant away!

ViRedd · #13 12-23-2006, 05:41 PM

I think you, Med ... and you Dank, need to read a bit of history on the Great Depression and FDR's influence on it besides that which was formulated by socialist historians.

The fact remains ... there were more unemployed at the start of FDR's third term than were unemployed at the beginning of his first term. Prove me wrong.

Vi

Dankdude · #14 12-23-2006, 05:54 PM

Vi I majored in History in High School, Long before the Libs started the Revisionist History...

In Context FDR did the right thing. Vi you have to look at history from the context of the times, and put down Ayn Rand for a second..

Also the only reason there was such unemployment was, Besides it was not the New Deal legislation that caused the unemployment, it was the Second New Deal legislation that caused it. I can concede that the Second New Deal legislation was not needed, but it was needed the first time around..

Quit calling FDR a Socialist, he hated Stalin and everything he stood for with a passion.

Dankdude · #15 12-23-2006, 05:55 PM

If FDR was anything, he was a popularist.

ViRedd · #16 12-23-2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dankdude

If FDR was anything, he was a popularist.

Yes, you are correct ... FDR was a socialist, but not the Soviet Union type. He leaned more toward the facist type of socialist. *lol*

And, if you are the age you say you are ... the history revisionist movement was well into place when you were in high school.

And ... the fact that I am an Ayn Rand fan has nothing to do with the unemployment rates during the presidential terms of FDR. The fact remains that there were more unemployed during FDRs third term than at the beginning of his first term. His WPA projects did nothing to solve the unemployment problems of the time. WWII did that in spades.

Vi

ViRedd · #17 12-23-2006, 06:43 PM

Here's an interesting site where one can read about the accomplishments of our fascist-socialist president .... Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Conservative Intellectuals Embrace FDR, Jump Off Cliff by Jim Powell

More info: Greatest Heroes Who Fought FDR’s New Deal by Jim Powell

Dankdude · #18 12-23-2006, 06:44 PM

Context Vi, The New Deal was needed at the time. (The Depression)

Dankdude · #19 12-23-2006, 06:46 PM

So what you are saying is if the economy takes a downturn, just start a war and it solves everything? Kind of what happened with the current administration.

ViRedd · #20 12-23-2006, 07:06 PM

No, what I'm saying is that the Great Depression was caused by government's interference in the natural market cycles. This would include the role the Federal Reserve had in it too with their monetary manipulations leading up to the depression.

Vi

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