Facts, facts, we don't need no stinkin facts! Your facts are someone elses rhetoric. I'll post what I believe and you post what you believe. At this late date in our lives, it's unlikely either one of us are going to do a 180, so quit trying. post what you believe to be true (unlike the attributes of G.W.Bush, I got a good laugh out of that!) and I'll do the same> see ya around!

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(unlike the attributes of G.W.Bush, I got a good laugh out of that!) and I'll do the same> see ya around!

And I noticed that you didn't rebut anything in that post.

Vi

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Nope, not worth wasting my time arguing with plutocratic garbage. Three whole pages of nonsense, you blew me out. Please oh please master don't make me read that much hogwash. I think My response was adequate! GW. Bush the 3rd worst president of all times, I'm voting for #1 That #$%*&^#$%^ has done more to inpinge on our freedoms and screw us in the worlds eye than any president I can remember and you want me to read the rhetorical postings of a lunatic championing his triumphs, Go pound!

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Ah, yes ... nothing like a mind securely shut!

Vi

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When it comes to Bush, Shut and locked and thrown the key away. He and Cheney are doing the devils work and you know it, you are just too stubborn to admit it. Here kitty kitty kitty. you listen to the rhetoric, I'll throw up!

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Med, the Devil's work? Do really believe this?

Bush is far from Satan, but IMO there is sufficient cause to support him regarding War on Terror.....I just wish he would butch-up!
In most other aspects he is simply a politician.
His attitude regarding border security and immigration reform is bizarre at best, and horribly wrong headed!
As I have mentioned repeatedly, Repubs and Dems are both abominable!
They are THE problem!

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Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it.
~George Bernard Shaw~

but IMO there is sufficient cause to support him regarding War on Terror..... Wavels, please, this no more a war on terror than the war on drugs is on drugs. It's a war for profit. All wars are for profit, they have to give them a name so the buzz word for Bushs' war is terror, Just like the war on Drugs, if they stopped the war, where would all those enforcement people find jobs, the lawyers, the judges, the prison guards, the cops, the DEA, etc. Untill the American people stand up to this extreme asshole (Bush) and his cronies, He'll continue feeding the corporations on our tax dollars, and on our blood!

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Nope, sorry med, I could not disagree more!
I believe that there really are people who want to kill us and our way of life.
They have stated this goal repeatedly They are our self-avowed enemies!
Peace will prevail only when they are ALL killed.
IMO, it is that simple. And we better do it soon!

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If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your shit, then YOU DESERVE IT.
~ Frank Zappa ~

Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it.
~George Bernard Shaw~

I couldn't agree more, Wavels. The reason Iraq is such a fiasco, and the reason we've lost the majority of our guys over there is because of the political battles being waged here in this country. Political correctness is ruling the day ... and keeping our enemies alive to fight another day ... most likely on our own soil. Why can't the libs see this?

Vi

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So, let me ask you this: say a foriegn government attacked us, The USA, declared Martial law, gave all the illegal mexicans guns and told them to kill Americans, Blew up all our infrastructure, killed over 800,00 US citizens and more or less made our lives unbearable, put in a puppet government and started raping our national resourses, you'd be happy with it, or, would you pick up a gun and fight? For that is what is going on in Iraq. Those people had nothing to do with 9-11 and everyone (well maybe not you) knows it. Those people,(the Iraqis) had no culpability in 9-11 and their country is being destroyed by us, The USA.! We have turned brother against brother and started a war among the tribes. How can you justify this. Just because those people were Islamists, they had no evil intentions towards the USA, I'll bet you now they do. This war is as I've stated, a war for profit, we're not fighting a war on terror, terror is a state of mind, how do you fight a war on a state of mind. I can't believe you can't see this. I've thought of you as an intelligent being, I am beginning to wonder if your hate factor is overwhelming your reason!

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