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Cannabis Cafe forums; you are right hanimmal, wish I had the ability to feel as you do. Wish I had the ability to ...
09-11-2010, 08:31 AM
If that is a legit post, I am really impressed man. Not that means anything to you, I am not saying this sarcastically, i truly mean this. Seriously if you feel this way I apologize for calling you a racist bigot, because you can prove me wrong pretty quick just by looking at the situation this way.
you are right hanimmal, wish I had the ability to feel as you do. Wish I had the ability to sift through the politics and the media and world and always come up with the right answer. Maybe I am unwilling to see there are people behind the rhetoric which do not claim the hate like their leaders. Maybe I am unwilling to accept they are america as much as you and me. I do not go to church and could really care less about christians or jews or muslims... heaven or hell. Maybe that is really the problem. When religion is the root of the issue between the two cultures. The people I know in my life are people to me, they are not black, white, brown, pink. They are simply people just like the muslims who want the mosque built are people too.
Good luck man, I feel the same way about religion in general, so it is easy to see that there is good and bad in them all, and all of them are equally as weird to me too at this point.
Keep the open mind man, its pretty easy to see it is not too scary as it seems when you really start to look.
When you realize that you are far more likely to be killed by a very nice loving soccer mom than you are by some radical terrorist, it becomes a lot easier to realize nobody cares enough to be out to get anyone. And that is still very unlikely to happen. There is no reason to fear much in this world anymore.
09-11-2010, 08:36 AM
Even though I am half mexican, I grew up a poor white kid too, this is why I say these things. I saw racism all the time because everyone just assumed I was white and would say normal shit around me. It is easy to cast blame on other people, from immigrants taking jobs, to black people ruining detroit, to going to my grandfathers funeral and being stuck in a room of true blue southern hate mongerers talking about every race under the sun.
I am poor, so maybe you are right
But when I mean poor, I did not mean poverty, I mean the 'whoa is me' mentality, that others are somehow out to get me. It seems to be humanities immediate response to any change, that somehow it is someone being out to take what little they have.
No, but at the same time it doesn't mean that we should allow the people that feel this way to say these things and not try to open up a conversation with them, both to see what they are truly afraid of, and if there is no logic in their fears to try to get them to understand it.
and you hate that dont you?
And at the times the reasons for their fears are legit we should address them and try to fix those issues before we go forward.
The whole absoluteism that is going on in America, its either all good or all bad, they are either out to get me, or our closest infallible ally, is horseshit. We really need to grow up and realize nobody cares enough about you to be out to get you, they just don't understand your situation because they don't have the same information about your life as you do.
Last edited by hanimmal; 09-11-2010 at 08:42 AM.
09-11-2010, 08:40 AM
Yes, yes, and yes. Forgive me for being a tad sarcastic, but I was trying to get you to look into your own words. You mentioned that you had multi-ethnic friends, and you did not see them as classified by race- you simply liked them for being a person with cares and concerns and problems and hopes. I'm not asking you to befriend someone that wants to hurt you or attack this country- I'm simply throwing out the idea that by getting to know someone of the muslim faith, you will more than likely chance your stance. We all have preconceived notions of things we don't truly know. These assumptions may be correct to an extent, but more often than not they are given to us by people that have no idea what they are talking about- unfortunately ignorance doesn't stop many people from preaching the wrong information.
Originally Posted by bLITzkRIEg420
Connecting with a person, face-to-face, is one of the easiest ways to look through the rhetoric being passed as truth; and being able to do this is either the hardest or the easiest things to do- it is what you make it.
09-11-2010, 08:49 AM
why use aeroplane when a cruise missile/ unmanned drone does just as good a job?
Originally Posted by smknnpokn
how do you suggest telling the differnce between the 1.5 billion muslims and the 17 hijackers?
can the person behind controls of drone tell diffference at a few thousand feet?
how many innocent muslims must die before they're allowed to turn around and say same about america?
what exactly do you think you should do about the 1.5billion muslims seeing as theres 5 times as many of them as americans?
Originally Posted by ArcticGranite
09-11-2010, 08:54 AM
i dont believe i have once stated the ethnicity of any of the people i know. somehow i just havent felt the need to
Originally Posted by bLITzkRIEg420
but seeing as your so desperate to prove you case i guess some photo's would be needed for proof....
now there is a sentiment that i agree with
The people I know in my life are people to me, they are not black, white, brown, pink. They are simply people just like the muslims who want the mosque built are people too.
Originally Posted by ArcticGranite
09-11-2010, 08:55 AM
09-11-2010, 08:56 AM
It's when my integrity regarding my friends came into question... I have love for these people I mentioned whether you believe that or not. I do love empinadas and Jets games with my boy Wes. That shit your not taking from me. Why does that make what I said right? It does not. Maybe for you this thread was a bother or upsetting but for what it's worth I will take something away from it and I will take something away from what you have all said.
09-11-2010, 09:11 AM
Good luck Blitz. Anyone that attacks you after your last couple posts just have not caught up to what you had said yet. A little residual bickering from earlier posts if anything.
09-11-2010, 09:37 AM
09-11-2010, 09:40 AM
would be well deserved... this post was fitting to our current world and state of our humanity. I believe we are at a crossroads in time. I really believe we are witness to not only the changing of america but perhaps even the end of it as we once knew it. Maybe on 911 this thread is relevant. IDK, either way thank you all for your posts. I gave you all rep yesterday and will give those new to thread today some rep as well. I find comfort there is wisdom left in the world.
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