Basically I'm not talking about the mega-poor, but the middle class that is being squeezed to tears. I react to being called paranoid, as paranoia supposes that something is made up or not true. In essence you are calling me a liar. I am probably the least liar on this site and if you are going to call me one be prepared to get an insult back at you. Just because I don't swallow your libertarian crap doesn't make me any less of a citizen or patriot! When you belittle me as a paranoid then it's on, so bring it or shut the fuck up!

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Med, I'm not calling you "paranoid", I'm just sayin that I think the term "poor" gets used VERY loosely in this country, and that it needs to be put in perspective. I'm lower middle class myself, and while I don't feel particularly picked on, I do agree with you that the government is not being run with my best interests at heart.

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Dank, I don't feel picked on by the government, yet! I've got serious reservations about their authority over me and all citizens. What galls me are the posts about poor, or lower middle class people being exactly where they should be because they want to be there. Doesn't common sense tell you they would rather be rich? What these libertarians don't understand is how hard it is to come from poverty, with no wealthy backing and end up where they are, at a place where the income tax is the greatest worry in their pitiful selfish lives. I would be on cloud 9 if I paid 70K in income tax. Just think how much I'd have left. These are the same people that when they were Kids, they wouldn't let anyone play with their toys. Spoiled Brats. To be demeaned by them makes me proud, because I know I'm gettin to them. I doubt if either of them went to war, yet they are perfectly happy to see others kids going there. I guess I'm tired of them thinking they have the moral high ground when I know exactly how they are!

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I think I can strike a note of commonality here because I agree completely with the notion that the current two party system is totaly dysfunctional and putrid.
This is one of the reasons I would like to see government reined in and downsized......In addition to a viable third party appearing on the political scene.

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In addition to a viable third party appearing on the political scene.
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They can never quite get it together as the two partys have it sowed up. I believe something like Britain or Canada where they have 4-6 partys and they all wield influence in parliment and vote with one-another to get things done would be better. I also love their prime minister questions! If G.W. had to get up every week and brief congress, then answer all the questions for an hour, I'm pretty sure the last 6 years might have turned out different!

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Good points Mr. med,
I think a potential adjustment for all those holding elected office in DC, are severe mandatory TERM LIMITS!
Throw them out before they develop superior weasel skills, feeding at the Beltway trough!

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~ Frank Zappa ~

Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it.
~George Bernard Shaw~

Med sez ...

"I guess I'm tired of them thinking they have the moral high ground when I know exactly how they are!"

Nope ... no paranoia there! LMAO!

Vi

What would you do without me to post to? This would be pretty boring eh! You get off on the arguments and really like it when I call you an ass, because then you think you've won. No, thats just my way of thanking you for being so contentious. If you'd start answering my questions about the un-rich and what to do with them, I'd see you a lot clearer and quit making judgements based on your lack of spontenaity, as in you don't have an answer because you really don't care as long as they (Govt.) leaves your tax money alone. Untill I get a clear picture of what you think about the rest of humanity, I'll assume the worst, pretty much because that is what you have inferred here on this site, "I've got mine, Fuck you"!

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"What would you do without me to post to? This would be pretty boring eh!"

First of all, Med ... you give yourself WAY too much credit. To answer the above question ... I would get along just fine in this forum without you "to post to." In fact, I think your absence would make a monumental improvement to the site. You are a deplorable debator, constantly demeaning, not only to the other members, but also to yourself. You have made physical threats, including physical threats in private messages. You suffer from "little man" syndrome, my friend ... and its getting mighty old. There! Does that answer the above question to your satisfaction?

"If you'd start answering my questions about the un-rich and what to do with them, I'd see you a lot clearer and quit making judgements based on your lack of spontenaity ..."

What to do with the "un-rich?" Uhhh ... how about raising the minimum wage to $70,000 a year. That should take care of it, no?

Vi

I guess there is no getting along with you, so go on and post your demeaning bullshit, I'll just consider the source! Yeah I almost forgot, I'm a little bald fat man with a big chip on my shoulder, you'd be surprised to see me, really you would!

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