
11-14-2007, 12:35 PM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dixie
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| | Parents must choose vaccines or jail | | it's pretty amazing, but the state of Maryland is forcing parents to choose vaccines for their children or jail. this is literally not America.
parents must always, without any room for exception, be the final decision makers about medical decisions involving their children. Parents Must Immunize Their Children Or Go To Jail
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11-14-2007, 12:47 PM
|  | forest ranger Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: northern california
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| | she said the supreme court ruled on this 100 years ago. i'm kinda undecided on this one. they say chickenpox in adulthood is very dangerous. i've heard of parents who actually want their kids to get the pox so it's out of the way. now something like smallpox or polio i can understand....
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11-14-2007, 12:49 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
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| | I believe the Founders placed the 2nd Amendment into the Constitution for a reason. Vi
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11-14-2007, 01:04 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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Originally Posted by ViRedd I believe the Founders placed the 2nd Amendment into the Constitution for a reason. Vi | Heres the deal with this: If one set of parents do not get their children vacinated, it could start an epidemic in the adult community. Vacinations have been very beneficial in the past in stemming the spread of these childhood diseases. I have mixed emotions on this subject. Like Abortion, it is a topic strife with opposing viewpoints. Yes it is stringent government control over your childs health, but in the greater spectrum, it might be necessary to curtail an epidemic. If the parent does not believe in this, I would suggest private school, but they also may require immunizations. Sometimes I feel that some people with very Narrow views try and force them on the rest of the populace, right 7X. Are you trying to say that there should be no vacinations at all, or just the ones that you approve of?
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11-14-2007, 01:05 PM
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| | I am of 2 minds about this. Parents should have the choice to have their children immunized, but on the other hand wouldn't parents want their children protected from a bevy of childhood diseases? As far as the chicken pox shot, I don't think it is that necessary. Every child should get it out of the way, because having it when you are an adult is awful. My poor wife was close to death for 2 weeks!
Now the new shot that can stop human papalova virus that sounds like it should be a parents choice, and completely optional.
I don't have kids, so what do I know? | 
11-14-2007, 01:13 PM
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| | Every day the amount of choices we make are being reduced, freedom is an illusion to keep you paying taxes.
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11-14-2007, 02:00 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
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| | When will we finally get the true picture guyz? The Orwellian State owns your/our children. The schools can give your child an abortion pill without your knowledge. They can refer your child to an abortion clinic without your knowledge. They can deny your child an education for making a simple mistake like bringing a butter knife into a government school in his/her lunch pail. Your child can/will be taken away from you and placed in Child Protective Custody if you correct them in a non-State-approved way. Why is it so surprising that the State can prosecute and jail parents for wanting to be in charge of their child's preventative health care? Vi
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11-14-2007, 10:37 PM
| | Learning How To Roll Learning How To Roll | | Join Date: May 2007
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| | Bullshit.
Children are not property. Before they're children, they're human beings. If some jackass parents (typically religious fundamentalists) want to leave their child and countless others in danger for some hokey beliefs, fuck them.
I hope if I have a daughter, she can get an "abortion pill" (read: a pill that prevents some cells from becoming anything) without my knowledge. She shouldn't have to go through the hell of young pregnancy because I want to impose my beliefs on her. The real point is this: if she's taking it without my knowledge, and doesn't think she can trust me, *I* have failed as a parent. Don't blame the state, or the child. | 
11-15-2007, 07:44 AM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dixie
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Originally Posted by medicineman Heres the deal with this: If one set of parents do not get their children vacinated, it could start an epidemic in the adult community. Vacinations have been very beneficial in the past in stemming the spread of these childhood diseases. I have mixed emotions on this subject. Like Abortion, it is a topic strife with opposing viewpoints. Yes it is stringent government control over your childs health, but in the greater spectrum, it might be necessary to curtail an epidemic. If the parent does not believe in this, I would suggest private school, but they also may require immunizations. Sometimes I feel that some people with very Narrow views try and force them on the rest of the populace, right 7X. Are you trying to say that there should be no vacinations at all, or just the ones that you approve of? | med, there can only be an "epidemic" among those who are not vaccinated and if we protected the border there really wouldn't be any of those diseases in America. illegal aliens are the only ones that bring polio over here.
i think vaccinations are great, so are multi-vitamins and so is water. we can't punish people for having different views. there's no way that the state should ever mandate anything medical to anyone unless it is part of a felony criminal sentence (castration, tracking chips).
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11-15-2007, 07:51 AM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dixie
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Originally Posted by fdd2blk she said the supreme court ruled on this 100 years ago. i'm kinda undecided on this one. they say chickenpox in adulthood is very dangerous. i've heard of parents who actually want their kids to get the pox so it's out of the way. now something like smallpox or polio i can understand.... | chickenpox complications are most likely in the very young and the very old. adults who have had chickenpox can be re-infected by dormant viruses that abide in the nerve network and develop "shingles" later, but chickenpox itself is not more dangerous for healthy adults.
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