Parents must choose vaccines or jail - Page 6

email468 · #51 02-28-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HotNSexyMILF

Gonna have to disagree with you there as well. My mom's friend's daughter actually lost her daughter to the state because the doctor she was seeing let the state know how she refused to give her daughter vaccines even when "strongly recommended" at her daughter's check ups. Since her daughter had state financed health care- they had the last say. She refused the vaccines- they took her daughter by force and gave it to her anyway. She's been trying to fight it since, and still doesn't have custody of her daughter.

All children should have access to health care and see a Dr. regularly, just be careful who the Dr. is- it appears medical confidentiality isn't a high priority to ever Dr.

Hey milf - sounds like you misunderstood me somewhere - i don't believe i ever condoned taking a child away - if I did then I misspoke - just regular medical check-ups in case refusal of the vaccine caused a communicable disease to develop. Vaccinated and non-vaccinated children would be treated the same and have proper medical care in my theoretical world. and it would be up the parent to allow or refuse. The parent wouldn't be threatened in anyway - but regular check-ups for the diseases that the vaccine may have prevented would be mandatory.

You're understandably willing to take that risk because the risk of the disease is small compared to the size of the scariness of the possible side effects. In some countries there are rampant diseases that can be prevented through vaccination. I believe in that situation, the risk of the disease is far greater and more frighteningly real than any possible chance side effects. I believe under those conditions, you would be willing - in fact maybe anxious to make sure your child was vaccinated. The only people I have a beef with is the folks who would exaggerate the dangers so that the folks who really should be vaccinated start refusing.

Sorry for the rambling but I wanted to make my position clear since I must have really misspoke if you thought I condoned taking away the child because of refusal to vaccinate.

HotNSexyMILF · #52 02-28-2008, 06:55 PM

I understand you perfectly clear now thank you.

I just want to point out, if there were "mandatory" check-ups, that would imply they'd have to keep track or all this and make sure check-ups are done when they're supposed to. Little too big brother for my tastes.

I agree- if the risk were more for the particular disease, weighing the possibilities I would vaccinate. But weighing the possibilities of the particular situation here, I choose not to.

email468 · #53 02-28-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HotNSexyMILF

I understand you perfectly clear now thank you.

I just want to point out, if there were "mandatory" check-ups, that would imply they'd have to keep track or all this and make sure check-ups are done when they're supposed to. Little too big brother for my tastes.

I agree- if the risk were more for the particular disease, weighing the possibilities I would vaccinate. But weighing the possibilities of the particular situation here, I choose not to.

I am susceptible to the "big brother" argument. In fact, it takes no convincing at all to assume the government would some how fuck up any good intentions.

HotNSexyMILF · #54 02-28-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by email468

I am susceptible to the "big brother" argument. In fact, it takes no convincing at all to assume the government would some how fuck up any good intentions.

History that's been repeating for yearssssssss.

I'm sick of big brother- can we pleasseeee kick him out of the family?