I have mixed thoughts on this issue....I remember a few years back, an outbreak of the largely controlled Whopping cough re-emerged in a population on Long Island in which a significant percentage of the parents opted out of the vaccinations for their kids.
To vaccinate or not should be the choice of the Parents.
But non-immunized kids could be trouble in a public school setting.

I find myself mostly in agreement with med's above post!!! OH NO!
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Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it.
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if children are not the property of the parents they most certainly are not property of the state and no state entity should be dispensing -anything- to children without the knowledge, consent and blessing of the parent. what a foolish lack of responsibility you seem to espouse. if you don't accept the privilege of teaching and instructing your children and giving them basic understanding about how to live a happy and good life then your views on the role of parents do not even rise to the level of cowardly, your views are beneath those of a wild animal that at least instruct their young how to hunt and survive. what a pathetic set of statements you have made.

you also demonstrate a total obliviousness to a large set of facts relating to vaccinations in this post. to my knowledge, there is no correlation of religious beliefs to the understanding that mercury is a toxic substance and that cases of autism have exponentially risen in the past two decades - concurrent with widespread multiple vaccination treatments. there are also some very powerful preservatives in use that are under-studied by the FDA that you'll so proudly cower behind as your great defender.

there is no hokey belief involved other than yours, if you don't believe me go inject a few ml of mercury and see how you feel in a couple hours. in fact, just make a new thread and post updates every 15 minutes from the time you do the injection so that we can document your mental decline and inability to type coherently. prove to the world that there is no problem with injecting mercury into your body.








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this is the real problem here, the state is trying to flex some muscle and force people to do things that they do not want to do. this, as Vi said, is SLAVERY.

the state will not refund taxes the parents pay for public schools so they are forcing parents to buy public education, what if they can't afford private schools because they are forced to fund public gulags, i meant schools?

anyway, the plot thickens. the AG admits that he did not allow his kids to get the vaccinations!!!


State Attorney Admits No Law Makes Vaccines Mandatory






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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

i am also of two minds. not because vaccines arn't important. its just the unknown of a 'governement program' for vaccination. call me paranoid, (easy enough for a pot smoker) but i do not trust the government. it has been proven that HIV is a man-made virus intentionally infected to those in africa. by who? oh yeah, a U.S. medical company.

they make one law saying i can't put what i want to in my body, or i go to jail.

and another saying i HAVE to put what THEY want in my body, or i go to jail.

this is a free society?

Touchy subject. I guess when it comes down to it, the parents should have the final say as to what their children are injected with. The true issue here in my opinion is not WHAT they want to inject them with. But it is the fact that they will jail you if you don't let them. In the future, I do not want my children to be chipped. I bet they will jail me if I don't let them chip my children - or myself.

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This thread is indicative of what our brain washing, government monopolized school systems have done to the belief system of the average American. Guyz ... there should be no "second thoughts," or second guessing about this issue. We are NOT owned by the State! The State does NOT have final jurisdiction over our children! The folks who work for the State are there because we, the citizens, ALLOW them to be there. Some of you seem to have the attitude that the State allows US to exist. These fuckers who are trying to dictate what we can do with our children, and what we can not do, have it all ass-backwards. They are working for US, not the other way around. I'm tellin' ya ... the State has infused a slave mentality into the American mind. You MUST believe this. To not believe this, as George Orwell would have said, puts the government boot of power in your face forever.

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Damned right I'm an equal opportunity offender, I'm a Conservative!

yes, i'm sorry because i took it for granted that people know this. mercury is in the majority of current vaccines.

if you do some looking around you'll find a very large movement against these vaccines because of all the toxic chemicals that are used to weaken and stabilize the viral components. a viral vaccine is a dose of weakened viruses, its kind of like throwing a rabbit with broken legs into a lion pit. it can't run away, reproduce or defend itself and our immune system attacks and stores the information needed to kill future infections of the same virus.

the live viruses are weakened by the chemicals in the vaccine solution and it is taken for granted by the developers that the average metabolic processes of a healthy human can safely discard all of these toxic vaccination components. this normally works out fine but a margin of those vaccinated develop very rare conditions such as autism, auto-immune or neurological disorders. it is suspected/likely that the vaccine components are the cause or trigger in certain cases.






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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

Hey--I'm going to give up a little to my ignorance on just what you were talking about. I don't know the issue, and if there is significant proof to give parents objections merit, I fully support them, and an investigation should be launched.

I'm from Wisconsin. Rural Wisconsin. Some of my neighbors are Amish, religious whack jobs that won't drive cars, but will ride in them, and BS like that. A few years ago, an Amish girl was real sick. She needed some intense medicine, but the Amish don't believe in medicine/technology. She would have died, but the State jumped in and said, "Fuck you, you are worthless parents." And she lived. And thank no-God for the State willing to tell parents where to go when they fail their children.

I assumed it was more like that, and in that respect made a mistake. But the point is, children are not property, of anyone. Parents should have full authority, right up to the point where the child suffers harm because of it.

You attacked my positions, but not specifically. So I cannot respond to anything else.

But, most generally, Orwellian State = Patriot Act, phone-tapping, waterboarding, and stealing my tax money to kill Iraqis. That's evil stuff. The people giving these vaccines are probably all good people, it's just the information--how safe they are--thats disagreed upon.