Its interesting to me that the racist factions like La Raza has tried to convince us that the issue is a Brown vs White issue. The real issue is U.S. Citizens (of every color) vs Illegal immigration (from what ever country).

On the Mexican southern border: Yes, there are those crossing Mexico's southern border every day, but when they are caught by the Mexican authorities, they are sent back from whence they came post haste.

And the fence in San Diego has virtually stopped illegals from entering through the California/Mexico border. That's why Arizona and Texas are having such a major problem now.

Vi

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Illegal immigration doesn't matter.

It's a nice distraction, though. Plays pretty well on the racist tendencies of people.

I didn't do anything to become an American. I was born. I don't deserve more than Juan does. Let 'em come, he can fuck my sister.

This is one of the most idiotic statements to appear in this forum for a long, long time. Congrats Golden-ASS.

Vi

PS: Is school out or something?

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A very learned an sophisticated attack, Vi. Or should I call you gramps? Old people typically are out of touch with reality.

What I said is true. Illegal immigration hurts the immigrants more than it hurts people in America. They're usually harder workers than average, too. Right now, the corporations benefit the most. I agree, the policies need to be reformed, but not for any of the security bullshit. They need to be reformed so the immigrants that come over are paid fairly.

I guess that was a significant rebuttal to your lack of a point.

Are you including the illegals in these reforms? Or just the ones that go through the motions to come here legally? Have nothing against people that come here legally. But, those that don't have no rights.

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Wrong, chico. People have rights. No matter what. Always.

Including the illegals is the point. If you don't, then nothing has happened. It must be made very easy to come through legally. Then corporate exploitation of people who just want a better life will end.

Make a better life in Mexico. Vote out the greedy graft ridden government, (Not that unlike our own). Make the corporations stop hiring illegals for less wages and pay wages Americans will work for might be a start and oh yeah, seal the border, put gun turretts every 500 yards with mine fields in between, put great white sharks in the ocean at the border fence, feed them daily with illegals caught on this side of the border so they will hang out, kinda like, here you go mr. Sancho, swim back to Mexico. Carpenters wages have gone from $22.00+ benefits to 8-10 bucks an hour with no benifits, same with all housing construction trades, so who is benefitting, the home builders and realtors.
Uneducated white people can't live on 8 bucks an hour, so illegals that come here and live 6 in a 1 bedroom apt get hired. Don't get me wrong, having been in the construction trade for quite a while, I see these illegals work their asses off for shit waqges because if they get lazy, they are replaced by one of the 50,000 illegals looking for a job. This policy only benefits the illegals and the corporate homebuilders.

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Is this serious? It made me crack up either way.

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Build some Gas Chambers - that would work too

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Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

In Mexico legally;

Have the means to sustain themselves economically;

Not destined to be burdens on society;

Of economic and social benefit to society;

Of good character and have no criminal records; and

Contributors to the general well being of the nation

The law also ensures that:

Authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

Foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

Foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country's internal politics;

Foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

Foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;

Those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

So why the do as I say not as I do mentality?

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