Here's a quote by Dwight D. Eisenhower. Who knew he was such a smart guy
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
Actually Hitler didn't invent it, he just perfected it. But what he was trying to say is absolutely correct. Bush is the Hitler of today and his supporters are nazis.

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"Bush is the Hitler of today and his supporters are nazis."

I was wondering ... did you look up the definition of NAZI and or FASCISM before you made that post?

Vi

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No but I'll take Big E's word for it.

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Eisenhower called Bush a Hitler and his followers Nazis? Gosh, I thought Eisenhower died before Bush was born. ~lol~

Vi

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word.

preventative war is wrong. it is sleazy con by those who desire war. this is not an argument, vi.

that is the history and present of those in control of this nation. create a threat, fabricate a war, on and on. when will americans learn this about their controlers?

The real terrorists are the major figure heads , the people in office and their damn propaganda machine Fox News.. we're all being fucked over !

i might ask you to define preventative war.

was it a preventative measure for us to invade afghanistan? a country who's totalitarian regime openly supported the very terrorists who attacked the us with blatant disregard for civilian life and with no particular military target in mind. whose subjugation of the female half of its citizens made them little more than slaves and chattel.

was it a preventative measure for us to invade iraq? whose megalomaniacal leader thumbed his nose at the international community and ignored the mandates of that toothless hag, the united nations, whose only weapon seems to be appeasement. a country who's record on human rights was amongst the worst in the world and whose territorial ambitions were made plain by its military invasion of kuwait.

you will probably throw in that old line "it's all for the oil, why didn't we attack another country whose government was even worse". would you prefer that we declared war on twenty different countries at the same time? we chose the countries where american interests were concerned most. is that such a crime? our elected officials' first duty is to the welfare of this nation and that includes its economic well-being.

it's far too easy to toss around terms like "nazi" when speaking of an administration with which you don't agree. though i do believe that baby bush does lean a bit toward the fascist side of the equation, i think that the term nazi goes a bit too far. if you bother to look into the matter i think you might find that his fascist tendencies stem more from his christian fundamentalist beliefs than his financial or political ties. his greatest link to hitler is his overwhelming belief in the superiority of his chosen dogma.

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no, not exactly. if we fought with Afghanastan to find bin Ladin who was hiding out there, it was not preemptive.

yes. iraq had an asshole leader but he had made no direct threats to the u.s. we overthrew the iraq regime on the dubious claim that they 'might' be harboring or supporting terrorist activity, and they 'might' have WMAs.

this is the definition of preemptive war. forget the comparisions to hitler for the moment. if you don't see the iraq war as preemptive, you're deluting yourself. and if it don't see preemptive war as wrong, you're a warmonger.

a strike on iran would also be preemptive. they've made no threats or strikes to the u.s. therefor, no actions are nessasary.

whatever happened to peace? doesn't anyone want to live in a peaceful world these days?

...instead of investigating the lies of this illegitimate regime you've accepted them without question. That is your downfall. These countries did nothing to the US ... it's the terrorists that stole the government who are responsible ... you need only follow the money to find the truth.

... you need to check the video I'm posting.

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forget the bogus reasons given for the iraq invasion in the first place, they were just excuses for doing what seemed to be needed to be done. the facts seem to indicate that iraq did indeed aid in the training of terrorists and that they did have aspirations to attain nuclear, chemical and biological weaponry. add into the mix the fact that saddam refused to abide by un guidelines and his recent history of aggression and i would say that any rational person might be tempted to think that his regime was a danger to the middle east and the rest of the world.

wouldn't you consider arming our enemies in a time of war to be a threat? even if you discount the saber rattling and inflammatory rhetoric coming from teheran, the aiding of foreign fighters inside of iraq seems to put them firmly in the enemy camp. i do agree that an invasion of iran would be a foolish move (just as the iraq war was an idiotic decision), but should they openly cross the border or attack any of our allies in the area then military action should not be left completely off the table.

please don't get me wrong. a peaceful planet is the aim of any intelligent person (even those who make their living by war), but to hide your head in the sand is no way to achieve peace. i heartily agree that the iraq invasion was an asinine blunder, but once into the fray the us is obligated to see it through to some sort of conclusion. we must pay for our mistakes even if it means sacrificing our own. to do otherwise would be even more immoral than our original stupidity. it may seem callous, but that is one of the costs of being a world power.

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