I have taken you far to lightly med.. I now understand your game and its truly a thing of beauty. You have taken the truism [ Ignorance is Bliss ] and have tried to lead all that you could into this state of BLISS and you help all the others by helping them to hone their wits on the whetstones of your ignorant threads.

Well done med. I salute you! You truly HAVE helped everyone else in this process, and you have i'm sure helped to lead a few towards this state of ignorant bliss.

I have used this type of manipulation from the age of 7 or 8, I must admit I still find it funny at times when I push someone in one direction knowing that they will go the other way because of their aversion to being pushed .
This is one of the easiest forms of manipulation to learn.

For me any form of manipulation MUST be for the good of the manipulated and the manipulater must pay for the manipulation and even using the crude form as above, its application should be very subtile.,

Sig heil comrade, I'll see you at the party headquarters. After all, I'm one of the anointed,~LOL~, you are so easy.

__________________
Life is good, the water is sweet. The ground keeps moving beneath my feet.

By that line of thinking North Korea must be Heaven, kim jong ll hasn't just visited hes a diety that lives there.

Now Vi you know most of those were starved and /or worked to death. Not as you say murdered.

So May, am I right in assuming you are a capitalist pig, or just a pig period. Your unabated assault on me is typical of inferior intellect. I am up for it as you can see. Communism requires (The true and only form I applaud) complete loss of overbearing egos like yours, The I've got mine, fuck you scenario that is exhibited by the likes of your ilk, is the path straight into the fiery pit. I am not a proponent of Governments like all those in the past that have warped the true tenents of communism into a dictatorial police state, whereas you are for the Capitalistic fascist police state as is being formed in America as we speak. Anyway, it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, two individuals cannot change one damn thing about this government, so we are just having a pissing contest. Although I view Capitalism as an evil form of government, rewarding those with the most wealth and abandoning the least of us to their own demise, I realize that in this country, it will be the dominant form, as this is the most greedy country on the planet.

__________________
Life is good, the water is sweet. The ground keeps moving beneath my feet.

I posted to Vi as he went a bit past the truth, not that his point couldn't be well supported.and the simple truth in most ways.... But murder is a legal term and he would need to prove malice aforethought.

You see my post to Vi as part of my unabated assault on you?
You assume too much, when you don't seem to be able to understand the facts right in front of you, assuming will only lead you further astray/awry from the truth.

Governments are not evil although some tenents or parts may be. Evil or bad things come from the people who operate the government. So please understand that the good nature of a human doesn't come from the government and for the most part evil is native or learned from someone/something other than the government.
So please understand that if I say that a government is evil than I would be speaking of the humans operating said government.

You show true stupidty saying that the US is the most greedy country, when the truth is it is by far the most giving however you wish to look at it.

What country has given more of its wealth or its blood for the good of the world?

If someone wishes for wealth he will watch over his wealth much as a good shepherd watches over his sheep alowing his flock to grow, thereby growing his wealth.
A bad shepherd will not spend the time watching his flock and spend more time devouring the sheep from his flock and as time goes on the flock becomes one then none.
I ask you, who would you want to watch YOUR sheep?

Ahh, yes ... like many socialists who have come before Med, if only THEY were in charge, they could make communism work. Yeppers, these people are true idealists ... idealists from Hell.

Here's what Med readily admits:

"Communism requires (The true and only form I applaud) complete loss of overbearing egos like yours..."

But like all dictatorial schemers, they never take into account that those in charge would have to FORCE the suppression of ego. Ego is part of human nature. Ego accounts for the survival instinct. Ego is what causes us to want what is best for ourselves and our families.

Med's faulty idealism is the type of idealism that has accounted for millions of miserable lives throughout the ages. As I've said many times before in this forum, I only wish Med and others who think like him would be honest enough to call what they espouse by its proper name. And that name is SLAVERY.

Vi

__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.

Yes this is backwards the state should be a slave to the people, [NOT] the people are slaves to the state.

And how many times have I said that My ideals of socialism would not be possible with the current state of humanity. Government involvement always corrupts the ideals. Power hungry egoists always assume command and start suppressing the populace. The human psyche is not ready for pure socialism and probably wont be for at least 200 years. Capitalism and it's evil reward the greedy system, will play out in time, as soon as the proletariate get wise to the workings of the program. The thing is, if you give them just enough to be semi-comfortable, TV and Fast food, you can scam them pretty well. The thing that is happening now is the demise of the middle class, and that will eventually lead to overthrowing the Capitalist pigs. But untill a higher sense of humanity sets in you'll have: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss". The thing that people don't realize is with the death of about a thousand individuals, the top elites, we could take control of the government. It is easy to kill them one at a time. You just have to locate them and walk right up and zero them out.

__________________
Life is good, the water is sweet. The ground keeps moving beneath my feet.

"The thing that people don't realize is with the death of about a thousand individuals, the top elites, we could take control of the government. It is easy to kill them one at a time. You just have to locate them and walk right up and zero them out."

Yeppers, right out of the Lenin, Mao and Marx handbook. Hey Med ... do you still wave The Little Red Book?



Vi

__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.