George W. Bush worst president ever? - Page 2

kronicsmurf · #11 05-13-2008, 10:23 AM

Is Bush the worst president in history? I don't know ask all the American soldiers killed in battle oh wait you can't because they're DEAD. seems pretty cut and dried to me. he is simply the worst butcher I've ever seen. I say ship his ass to Iraq and let him do a tour of duty.

medicineman · #12 05-13-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kronicsmurf

Is Bush the worst president in history? I don't know ask all the American soldiers killed in battle oh wait you can't because they're DEAD. seems pretty cut and dried to me. he is simply the worst butcher I've ever seen. I say ship his ass to Iraq and let him do a tour of duty.

Amen brother, Amen!

pokey · #13 05-13-2008, 11:18 AM

Ok, if that's your argument, try asking all the soldiers killed in any American war. With your argument, it means that they will all say that the current president at their time of death was the worst. I don't think Bush is great, I don't even think he's good, but it is far too early to tell if he is the worst. Plus, any declaration of "Worst President" will have to have the caveat of "So far" added to it. No one knows the future, and it is always possible that someone worse than any previous president might come along.

VTXDave · #14 05-13-2008, 02:13 PM

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Ok, if that's your argument, try asking all the soldiers killed in any American war.

True dat...Now this is no endorsement of Bush but JFK, who happens to be a former POTUS held in high regard to this day, escalated Vietnam. How many soldiers died there? 60,000? 60,000 young men for what? To stem the tide of communism in some little backwater nation on the other side of the planet?

Zekedogg · #15 05-13-2008, 02:15 PM

George Washington can suck my fat one

pokey · #16 05-14-2008, 10:20 AM

I doubt he would, he would be too busy advising farmers to grow hemp!

ViRedd · #17 05-14-2008, 01:48 PM

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I must wonder what Jimmy did to you. You have him on your hit list and he is one sweet man. He is a minister and only wishes for good for mankind, WTF is your problem?

Did I say he wasn't a sweet man? Did I say he wasn't a minister? Did I say that he doesn't wish well for mankind? No, I didnt ... did I? I said he's was a terrible president. Totally ineffective, totally lacking in economic thought ... and a "well intentioned" socialist through and through. That's exactly why he left the country in such sorry economic shape when he left office. Good intentions run awry.

Vi

rollinupsweets · #18 05-15-2008, 02:45 PM

pokey

Ok, if that's your argument, try asking all the soldiers killed in any American war. With your argument, it means that they will all say that the current president at their time of death was the worst. I don't think Bush is great, I don't even think he's good, but it is far too early to tell if he is the worst. Plus, any declaration of "Worst President" will have to have the caveat of "So far" added to it. No one knows the future, and it is always possible that someone worse than any previous president might come along.

..really??! its to early to even know if such a title could fit Bush ..so how long after hes out of office should we wait?? he is at the end of his presidency

we see the number of soldiers killed everyday on the news,its almost like a fuckn lottery number.. im curious i wanna know the number, its on every night n its whole bunch of numbers. i repeat that sentence in my head alot, daaamn bush is fucked up..but then again it wouldnt be bush alone cuz when hes gone it CAN still be the same, it would be what bush stands for ..which is what McCAIN stands for and soo on..

Allan Watts · #19 05-15-2008, 02:52 PM

The Iraq war is purely a war of choice-Dubyuh and Dick's Choice. They are personally profiting from it. It is a little early to call him the worst since things are still getting worse by the day. Every body LIMBO! How low will he go? Andrew Jackson was pretty bad for committing genocide on the Cherokees. They put him on the $20 any way though.

VTXDave · #20 05-15-2008, 03:00 PM

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The Iraq war is purely a war of choice-Dubyuh and Dick's Choice.

Let's not forget Rumsfeld and Tenet...Gotta share the love ya know.

Here's a good book for anyone that'd like to know what went on behind closed doors during the build up to the Iraq invasion....
Amazon.com: Plan of Attack: Bob Woodward: Books

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The 2003 American invasion of Iraq was contentious, not just in the arena of global public opinion, but within the tight-lipped world of the George W. Bush White House. As Bob Woodward reveals in Plan of Attack, Vice-President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld were part of a group leading the charge to war while Secretary of State Colin Powell, General Tommy Franks, and others actively questioned the plan to invade a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks while war in Afghanistan was still being waged. Woodward gained extensive access to dozens of key figures and enjoyed hours of direct contact with the President himself (more time, seemingly, than former Bush administration officials Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neill claim to have had). As a result, he's able to cite the kind of gossip you won't find in a White House press release: Franks calls Pentagon official Douglas Feith "the f*cking stupidest guy on the face of the earth," Powell shares his alarm over how the cautious Cheney of the first Bush administration had transformed into a zealot, and Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar seems to enjoy significantly more entrée and influence than most anyone would have thought. Bush is shown as a man intent on toppling Saddam Hussein in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and never really wavering in his decision despite offering hints that non-military solutions could be achieved. Light is also shed on CIA director George Tenet, who insists that the evidence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction was "a slam dunk" only to later admit that his intelligence was flawed when months of post-war searches turned up nothing. But the book's most interesting character is Powell. A former soldier himself, who finds himself increasingly at odds with the agenda of the administration, Powell rejects evidence on WMDs that he sees as spurious but ultimately endorses the invasion effort, apparently out of duty. Upon its publication, the Bush administration roundly denied many of the accounts in the book that demonstrated conflict within their circles, poor judgment, or lousy planning, but the Bush/Cheney reelection campaign nonetheless listed Plan of Attack as recommended reading. And it is. It shows alarming problems in the way the war was conceived and planned, but it also demonstrates the tremendous conviction and dedication of the people who decided to carry it out.