If you have ever filed, you are fucked. I didn't pay for 7 years but when I finally filed they wanted to know what I'd been doing for 7 years. Since I didn't have any 1099s, or other income to show, I got away with it. If you work for a paycheck, be prepared for a knock on your door. PS, don't ask what I was doing for 7 years. If I didn't have to tell the government, I'm sure as hell not going to give it up on this site.

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Magus sez ...

"those who earn a wage arent making profits as their wage is AN EQUAL TRADE of labor for funds."

If the majority of Americans understood just this one point, the IRS and the slave tax known as the "income tax" would be history.

And why does Alan Keyes, Irwin Schiff AND Ron Paul call the income tax a "slave tax?" Because when you are taxed on your income, the government is taxing a portion of your labor. THEY determine what portion is taxed. In doing so ... the government OWNS that portion of your labor that is taxed. What shall we call a system, whereby another owns a portion of one's labor ... other than slavery?

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Well, you're only part slave then, or they would take all your wages. Taxes is the price you pay to live in a democracyt where all are not created equal. Some are born into wealth while others are born into poverty and all points in between. Besides if you've ever watched porn movies, you know that man was not created equal.

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part slave is a lot more slave than we were ever meant to be as FREE AMERICANS!

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what was your point medicine man? do you like just paying for no reason or do you think slavery is a necessary function of government? we pay sales tax, gas tax, cigarette tax, all sorts of taxes that pay for everything involved in their operation. gas tax pays for anything to do with the highways. we dont have health care, the government doesnt do anything at all for us that our local taxes dont do already. they just pay their employees, rich white guys, who do nothing and work part time. all for huge salaries, getting their friends companies huge contracts. f senators and congressman are aware of the "slave tax" how can we ignore it?

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My point was: In a society made up of un-equal chances for success, (wealth in this instance), a progressive income tax should go a long ways towards leveling the playing field. I'll agree that the idiots running our government have twisted the intent of a progressive tax from making the country a better place to live for all into a giveaway to the military-industrial complex. It is not the tax that is bad but the spending of the money that has been diverted into the pockets of the already wealthy. If the tax was used to better the country, Free health care, education for all, etc, and not used to fund the most agregious military and welfare to corporate giants, I'm pretty sure we could get a consensus for it. You'd never get the wealthy to sign on, but the proletariate would certainly benefit from a fair accounting of the tax structure.

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well i think with the proper leadership we dont need the income tax at all to live in a very high quality of life. if the PEOPLE have the money, and not the governement, they can spend it on things that benefit both them, the economy and the lives of Americans. We dont need an income tax to function. it hasnt been needed for the majority of our countries history and we did just fine without it. they certainly are funneling the funds into the military-industrial complex, you got that right. every tax is corrupt and every fund is dwindled into nothing after the politicans touch it. and it hardly levels any playing field, when for example a family earning 30,000 a year gives up 10,000 in taxes which leaves them with 20,000, hardly enough to survive. a family which makes 3 million keeps 2 million, and they are not moving up or down on their quality of life, or methods of survival. this tax punishes the poor and middle class keeping them in a suspended state of wealth. or lack thereof. the tax benefits those who make the most money giving businesses, and individuals rich enough to own businesses the biggest tax breaks of any group, way more than the minimum wage workers that run them. there is something wrong here.

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Yes there is. Especially since the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. I would welcome an overhaul of the tax structure that would really level the field. I don't have the plan, and don't know whether an income tax is the best way or not, but, most other taxes, flat, national sales tax etc. benefit the wealthy even more than the supposed progressive income tax. The problem as I see it is, the progression is not steep enough. The top 20 percent should pay more and the bottom 20 percent should pay none. Do you have a better plan?

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we should all pay nothing and get to keep everything we earn. the economy will run itself and we dont need the government weakening the dollar. thats the only thing they do they inflate the money and take it from us so each year we earn less and less. destroy the federal reserve bank and kill off government agencies that have no right stealing our money. dept of ed, dept of health, dept of homeland security. they do nothing and cost billions. there are so many places where the problems cross over, it would take a huge overhaul to complete but it can be done. the people just have to be sick enough.

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Well, untill they get health care figured out so everyone can have it, like it is a right and not a priveledge, I'll have to relate to some form of taxation. Why should only the wealthy be entitled to sound health care. Is it not a god given right to be healthy. A poor person without medical coverage is much more likely to die from a disease than a rich person. Why should your life expectancy be based on income? Although I have adequate health coverage, I realize that there are millions who don't. I believe that every citizen should be entitled to at least as good of health coverage as I have and probably even better. People living on the edge of society don't have a chance of ever getting together enough money to pay for their health care. As a society, we are morally obligated to provide this care to those that cannot afford it. Those that are unwilling to sacrifice from their position of wealth and influence are the real traitors in the society. Giving is what makes a person whole.

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