U.S. involvment with iranian attacks?

ViRedd

ViRedd

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The point is, all news sites have their bias' but Fox at least presents both sides of the arguement.

Again, which news outlet reported on the Navy Seal who recieved the Valor of Honor last week? It wasn't CBS, NBC or ABC. Doesn't that make you anti fox guys wonder why?

Med ...

In the week I alluded to ... there were NO casualties in Iraq. You didn't hear that on your favorite Pravda news source either, did ya?

Vi
 
silk

silk

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ViRedd said:
The point is, all news sites have their bias' but Fox at least presents both sides of the arguement.
Vi
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Personally I wouldn't waste my time discussing the bias of particular news outlets. I essentially agree with you VI. However the anti-Fox sentiment is based on rather scathing analysis such as the documentary Outfoxed. You can watch it here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428our

I would be very interested in your thoughts on the documentary.:hump:
 
Chrisuperfly

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ViRedd said:
The point is, all news sites have their bias' but Fox at least presents both sides of the arguement.

Again, which news outlet reported on the Navy Seal who recieved the Valor of Honor last week? It wasn't CBS, NBC or ABC. Doesn't that make you anti fox guys wonder why?

Med ...

In the week I alluded to ... there were NO casualties in Iraq. You didn't hear that on your favorite Pravda news source either, did ya?

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We are in the anti-hero age and have been since the early sixties. Its sad that men recieve such a high award in giving their lives to save others and it goes completely un-noticed.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Sorry silk, the link doesn't work. My sound card is inoperative anyway.

There is no doubt that Fox presents a conservative view, but along with that view, they usually have someone presenting the opposite view point as well. I believe what drives the Left crazy about Fox is that they present anything conservative at all. The Left no longer has a vice grip on the information media anymore and its driving them crazy. Not only that, but most of their news outlets are failing. The New York Times is a great example. What was once a great newspaper has lost millions of readers ... same thing for the Los Angeles times as well. What used to be The Big Three in TV broadcasting are a joke as well. Hollywood is experiencing almost a general boycott of their left-wing propaganda pieces too. Again ... all of this is driving the Left banannas.

The point I was trying to make was ... the so called "Main Stream" media is much more biased than Fox.

Vi

 
Chrisuperfly

Chrisuperfly

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Free will is a wonderful thing. To all of those that don't like what Fox is reporting exercise your free will and turn the channel.
 
GrowRebel

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ViRedd said:
The point is, all news sites have their bias' but Fox at least presents both sides of the arguement.
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Yeah I heard that ... they give the illegitimate bush side ... and the illegitimate cheney side of the arguement ... that :spew:faux news ... A JOKE.:neutral:
 
medicineman

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GrowRebel said:
Yeah I heard that ... they give the illegitimate bush side ... and the illegitimate cheney side of the arguement ... that :spew:faux news ... A JOKE.:neutral:
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G-R, you must excuse fascists like VI, they are going to be the ones behind the jackboot thugs protecting them from the masses. People that watch Fox noise, are too far gone to rationalize any longer, I know a couple of them, wow, midwesterners that just love Bush-Cheney, think they can do no wrong. The mindset of these fascists is absolutely incomprehensible. It's all about the money. They will love it when our (common people) freedoms are gone. Then only the members of the ruling class will have freedom, freedom to fuck over anyone they want. Just let them be assured, that when my time to get fucked over comes, I will take a few of them with me.
 
ViRedd

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Med ...

Have you ever considered counseling? In all honesty, you are becoming ever more irrational in your postings as time advances.

Vi
 
silk

silk

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ViRedd said:
Sorry silk, the link doesn't work. My sound card is inoperative anyway.

There is no doubt that Fox presents a conservative view, but along with that view, they usually have someone presenting the opposite view point as well. I believe what drives the Left crazy about Fox is that they present anything conservative at all. The Left no longer has a vice grip on the information media anymore and its driving them crazy. Not only that, but most of their news outlets are failing. The New York Times is a great example. What was once a great newspaper has lost millions of readers ... same thing for the Los Angeles times as well. What used to be The Big Three in TV broadcasting are a joke as well. Hollywood is experiencing almost a general boycott of their left-wing propaganda pieces too. Again ... all of this is driving the Left banannas.

The point I was trying to make was ... the so called "Main Stream" media is much more biased than Fox.

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That maybe all true but Fox is mainstream media. People have successfully criticized Fox for their "fair and balanced" campaign and Fox dropped it.
You can find more info on the documentary at OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
and the proper link is: [SIZE=-1]video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428[/SIZE]
 
GrowRebel

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medicineman said:
G-R, you must excuse fascists like VI, they are going to be the ones behind the jackboot thugs protecting them from the masses. People that watch Fox noise, are too far gone to rationalize any longer,
Then only the members of the ruling class will have freedom, freedom to fuck over anyone they want. Just let them be assured, that when my time to get fucked over comes, I will take a few of them with me.
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I hear ya ... they have certain gone over the deep end ... to believe that the propagada faux puts out as news ... and I will give it to Vi ... as far as the other MSM outlets ... they aren't as bad as faux ... none are ... but aren't too much better ... I have made it clear that ANY corporate news outlet puts out propaganda and passes it off as news ... I got tired of that which is why I had my cable disconnected ... why should I pay for propaganda?:spew::roll:

Have you checked out the website "TheRealNews" ... beta up and running ... excellent jounalism ... gives both sides of an aurgument and uses investigative reporting ... something that has been long forgotten by the MSM ... they are not beholding to any corporation or government cornie ... they exsist on donations ... so they report the facts ... check it out ... I can't wait until they are fully up and running.:blsmoke:

... and it will be a cold snowy day in the amazon before I give up any of my rights to these facist asswipes.:-|
 
GrowRebel

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Study Finds Widespread Misperceptions on Iraq
Highly Related to Support for War
The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

What did I tell ya ... faux news is nothing more than propaganda ... to think it's a news organization is a joke ... they are at their best when misleading the public ... but that's their job isn't is ... in that ... they do a good job.:neutral:
 
ViRedd

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GrowRebel said:
Study Finds Widespread Misperceptions on Iraq
Highly Related to Support for War
The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

What did I tell ya ... faux news is nothing more than propaganda ... to think it's a news organization is a joke ... they are at their best when misleading the public ... but that's their job isn't is ... in that ... they do a good job.:neutral:
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Misperceptions according to whom, GrowRebel? I mean, if one doesn't march in lock-step politically with NPR or PBS, one is misperceiving? ~lol~ Both NPR and PBS are known for the left leaning slant of their programming. That's my point about Fox News and why the left hates it so much. See, the Birkenstock Gang considers the leftist views of the MSM to be centrist, so it stands to reason that they would also think that centrist political thought would be right wing propaganda.

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medicineman

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Misperceptions according to whom, GrowRebel? I mean, if one doesn't march in lock-step politically with NPR or PBS, one is misperceiving? ~lol~ Both NPR and PBS are known for the left leaning slant of their programming. That's my point about Fox News and why the left hates it so much. See, the Birkenstock Gang considers the leftist views of the MSM to be centrist, so it stands to reason that they would also think that centrist political thought would be right wing propaganda.

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Dazzel them with confusion. You are so far right that anything you say must be interpreted by a fascist translater before making any kind of sense.
 
SEganja

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I love that my post has gotten so long, but i still think we have lost the original issue, which I would like to get back to.

and furthermore...Vi isn't a facist, he may be right left or center of political lines. He makes a good point about all news being skewed to look certain ways. Every peice of journalism is skewed to the authors point of view. It's not about actually reporting the "eternal truth" of an event, it's about the news outlet reporting what it observes through it's own view.

medicineman your right also, faux news is garbage but I still watch it. Not becuase I like it or agree with the way they present the world around them, but so that I can compare it to all the other imput i take in. Any well informed person will take in all the information they can and then form an opinion. You can't boil journalism and all the news into just faux news, everyone skewes so get over it.

play nicely...

now back to the original issue please, What the fuck about the kurds? it is a vary important issue most of the world seems to be ignoring. US terrorism? or freedome fighters?

I'm thinking that the bush administration is helping them and that they should cruise missle the white house, at least that's what we do to terrorist sponsors right?
 
GrowRebel

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ViRedd said:
Misperceptions according to whom, GrowRebel? I mean, if one doesn't march in lock-step politically with NPR or PBS, one is misperceiving? ~lol~ Both NPR and PBS are known for the left leaning slant of their programming. That's my point about Fox News and why the left hates it so much. See, the Birkenstock Gang considers the leftist views of the MSM to be centrist, so it stands to reason that they would also think that centrist political thought would be right wing propaganda.

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According to the people in the study ... can't you read? The difference between faux news and PBS is they don't report blantant lies as news ....

[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3025192220071031"]Boy confesses to starting California fire that FOX News claimed Al-Qaeda started [/URL]

Now will fauxnews print a retraction of their lie as would any reputable news organization ... hell no ... they never do ... you have been watching faux for so long your braincells have died and you can no longer see the obvious.:neutral:
 
GrowRebel

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No it doesn't but faux news has been running stories suggesting Al Qaeda started the Wildfires ...:-|

[URL="http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2007/251007Wildfires.htm"]Fox News Runs With Al Qaeda Wildfires Conspiracy Theory [/URL]
Neocon mouthpiece channel Fox News continues to run programming today suggesting that Al Qaeda terrorists may have infiltrated the US and started fires in California that have devastated acres of land and have forced one million people from their homes over the past week.
So, please tell me how "The Toilet" (what "Al Qaeda" means in Arabic slang) knew that Bush had slashed fire prevention funding thereby turning Southern California into a gigantic BBQ waiting to be lit?
Because what made these fires disasters is not that they started, but that the fire prevention measures intended to control such fires were cut to pay for the war, just as the New Orleans levees were left unrepaired.


This pathetic (even for FOX) attempt to place the blame on "The Toilet" sets a new low of mainstream yellow journalism. - M. R.
 
medicineman

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I will most assuredly agree with most every anti-FOX post on this forum, and disagree with most every VI-Redd post. It is the nature of common sense.
 
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