
10-24-2007, 01:11 PM
|  | HappilyCarryingChild#2 Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The NOW, Ohio. =)
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| | American Pride... | | I remember those times in school when they first taught us the history of our country.
I remember the pride I had as a child.
I was proud to be a citizen of this great country.
A country that was built by such brilliant, logical, and fair human beings.
Now, as a young adult and having seen the reality we live in,
I can't believe a country with such pure intentions could become this.
I can't believe how far we have come from our roots-
how many freedoms we have given up to the people who claim to protect us.
As a young mother, I fear the world my daughter will have to face.
I fear the reality she would have to raise her children in.
Ron Paul will bring us back to the country we were.
With Ron Paul as president
I would be much more proud to raise my daughter in this country and raise her in a truly free society.
__________________ RIP Josh.. you should never have been in Afghanistan to begin with.. FUCK YOU GOVERNMENT FOR TAKING SOMEONE FROM ME WHO WAS CONVINCED THEY WERE BEING PATRIOTIC AND PROMOTING GOODNESS IN THE WORLD. | 
10-24-2007, 01:18 PM
|  | Just some idiot Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007
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| | I feel the same, school is part of the propaganda machine unfortunately. I like Ron Paul but I hate to say it, he will have no power if he is president, he's gonna have a tough road with all the other "corporate" politicains...like Congress and a the Senate. I hate to say this but I think it is to late for the US to return to it's roots, it's too much of a corporation all ready. Rights, we lose more and more it seems...it's gone.
I love america and the ideas it "stands" for, before I get someone telling me to leave. I love that, say something bad and they tell you to leave. I thought this country was about us and not "them". | 
10-24-2007, 01:29 PM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas
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| | If any of you are readers out there, James Loewen wrote a book titled Lies My Teacher Told Me. It has just been revised with new information and issued in paperback so it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. It is a very good read on the propaganda that goes into our World and American history books. Much of what you believe about how great our nation was has been taught to you through skewed ideas and texts. Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice as high
Take a look, it's in a book - Reading Rainbow.
I can go anywhere!
Friends to know and ways to grow - Reading Rainbow.
I can be anything!
Take a look, it's in a book - Reading Rainbow.
Reading Rainbow, Reading Rainbow, Reading Rainbow, Reading Rainbow! | 
10-24-2007, 01:33 PM
|  | Learning How To Roll Learning How To Roll | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: florida and costa rica
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gygax1974 I like Ron Paul but I hate to say it, he will have no power if he is president, he's gonna have a tough road with all the other "corporate" politicains.... | the saddest part of politics in america is exactly that. ron paul has some good ideas and of course he is pro marijuana. ralph nader, in my opinion would be the greatest president if he was elected, and could get a congress to work with him. you all should read "The Good Fight".
the fact is, we need to rally together to take america back from the corporations and the cronyism. we have the power, but as long as we continue to allow the govt. to step on us and tear apart the Constitution while we stand idly by the country will continue to erode and our world status will continue to be besmirked.  | 
10-24-2007, 02:27 PM
|  | HappilyCarryingChild#2 Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The NOW, Ohio. =)
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| | I agree whole heartily. Every one has given up, I don't think I know anyone who isn't family that votes any more... we have to remember.
POLITICIANS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR US.
and
THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THEM.
__________________ RIP Josh.. you should never have been in Afghanistan to begin with.. FUCK YOU GOVERNMENT FOR TAKING SOMEONE FROM ME WHO WAS CONVINCED THEY WERE BEING PATRIOTIC AND PROMOTING GOODNESS IN THE WORLD. | 
10-24-2007, 04:17 PM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands
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| | i dont know guys ron paul said he wanted to eliminate the fbi & cia and also said we should leave the middle east just like osama said when he bitch slapped us and blowed up our wives and children on 9/11. Mr. Paul wants to turn tail and run! I know it sounds nice to be able to pull away from the world, but then whos gonna keep all the despots, tyrants, rapists of nations, and starvers of children at bay. oh ya and dont forget about the ones who wanna nuke the whole western world. the minet we pull away from world and ignore it is the minuet a bunch of tyranous goverments seize smaller counties monopolizing the oil, freedom, food and everything else and use it to oppress and consolidate power. we could retreat if we werent the strongest nation and not the only one standing and walking the walk for long term peace, freedom for all, and no ethnic mass killings and mass starvations. the polititions are the cause of the problem cuz they pit us against each other, thats how they stay in power. thats why hilary and dems always try to increase the size of the government so there are more people that rely on the government, hence they get elected more often, eventually after years and years, they will even control your bread and you will have to wiat in line all day for your loaf, just like they did in russia many years ago. we gonna have to fix the world or atleast make it habitable for everyone or the power hungry will destroy it just like the power hungry here are destroying america. the reason we have to do this now is because the day our fathers have been dreding is here atom bombs for everyone in the world. we all new this day would come this is the reason we cannot retire. other than that we could have left all those fucks to kill and rape without worrying about nukes in your cities that have no return address. but kill all our loved
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10-24-2007, 04:37 PM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas
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| | May I interject, The US is the largest polluter in the world. We are the worlds largest arms dealer. We are the only country in the world that has used a nuclear weapon against people.
I agree we have a mission to help make the world a safer place, but we aren't and haven't been setting a very good example. | 
10-24-2007, 05:16 PM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by dankie May I interject, The US is the largest polluter in the world. We are the worlds largest arms dealer. We are the only country in the world that has used a nuclear weapon against people.
I agree we have a mission to help make the world a safer place, but we aren't and haven't been setting a very good example. | yea i see your point but we have set one of the best if not the best examples of any other nation on earth, but your right we are not perfect. But when we nuked all those japs it was to save our people. sons that had been asked to do enough. basically your suggesting we should have thrown them into a meat grinder in an invasion of the Japanese mainland, while all the time we had the power to end it all and let them return to thier loved ones. i mean its a god send in itself that we got the nukes before Hitler did. i wonder how the world would have felt if Hitler had the nukes instead of us. luckly we the good democratic americans got it, not a dictitorial tyrant. now we want to stop anyone else from getting it. there are enough nations that have them.
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10-24-2007, 08:33 PM
|  | HappilyCarryingChild#2 Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The NOW, Ohio. =)
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| | We have people starving in our streets, we have people homeless and unemployed- yet we spend billions and billions of dollars to make other people's lives better? Explain to me why we are more concerned with the whole world's welfare when we can't take care of our own?
"luckly we the good democratic americans got it, not a dictitorial tyrant. now we want to stop anyone else from getting it. there are enough nations that have them." We have a dictatorial tyrant right now! 73% of the American people DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE TROOPS OVER IN THE MIDDLE EAST! "the polititions are the cause of the problem cuz they pit us against each other, thats how they stay in power. thats why hilary and dems always try to increase the size of the government so there are more people that rely on the government, hence they get elected more often, eventually after years and years, they will even control your bread and you will have to wiat in line all day for your loaf, just like they did in russia many years ago." Which is why we need to make a change now! "the minet we pull away from world and ignore it is the minuet a bunch of tyranous goverments seize smaller counties monopolizing the oil, freedom, food and everything else and use it to oppress and consolidate power."
You know we wouldn't be dependent on foreign oil if hemp/marijuana was legalized (something Ron Paul plans to do). As far as the using freedom, food, and "everything else used to oppress and consolidate power" -basically you're saying "hurry and control everything before everyone else does". The founding fathers suggested we stay our of foreign affair, trade with all, align with none. Since when did that good advice falter? We need to get this stupid idea of trying to police the world out of our head- it's not our responsibility and you don't see any of these nations helping us out with our shortages here do you? We give when we have none....and we are bankrupting ourselves because of it.
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10-24-2007, 09:30 PM
|  | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: Oct 2007
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| | Quote: | But when we nuked all those japs it was to save our people. sons that had been asked to do enough. basically your suggesting we should have thrown them into a meat grinder in an invasion of the Japanese mainland, while all the time we had the power to end it all and let them return to thier loved ones. | This is not exactly accurate. We could have ended the war with japan without the nukes and without an invasion. The japanese had been trying to surrender with conditions for some time before the big bombs. The US wanted unconditional surrender so we nuked them, after the nukes Japan agreed to unconditional surrender. The surrender was accepted and japan was given the provisions of it's original surrender attempt. Hmmmm.....
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