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Old 10-25-2007, 07:16 AM
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Its whining when you piss and moan but don't do anything to stop the cause of the problem. Or is that insanity? To keep doing something over and over hoping for a different outcome but getting the same one each time?

As far as giving money and Aid to foreign countries....America is always at the top of the list, everyone comes to us with their hands out.

I will tell you whats really sad, all these oil rich countries don't give a fucking dime in foreign aid.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:39 AM
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What more can a little guy like me do, I vote....I have the right to whine cause I sure can't change anything. There's a difference between whining and being unhappy. Like I said I vote so I can "whine", let me ask you this, do you like your health insurance? What if you didn't have any? What would you do shut your mouth or "whine"? I actually come from a family of Marines, should I be happy that my "brother" is in some shit hole fighting an oil mans war, or should I "whine"? If I don't like that my grandkids are going to be morons cause our education system is a mess, should I "whine"?

What have you done to make a change? Cause surely you must not "whine". I'm sorry I love America, and right now we look like a bunch of asses.

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Old 10-25-2007, 08:19 AM
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Voting is great you have taken the first step, but both you and I know that isnt nearly enough, elected leaders are full of shit always have been always will be. Most of them are salesman, they tell you what you want to hear so you buy into their product then once you buy it, it turns out to be horseshit.

My life is pretty good, as is that of my family members. I don't go around blaming other people for shit that I can control or decisions I have made that turn sour. If its a problem that I can directly fault someone for or a political entity for that matter, I will take action.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:52 AM
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know it sounds nice to be able to pull away from the world, but then whos gonna keep all the despots, tyrants, rapists of nations, and starvers of children at bay. oh ya and dont forget about the ones who wanna nuke the whole [western] (Change this to eastern) world.

Now you have described the USA under the despot "Bush"
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:39 AM
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great post Victor!

also, i agree with you, Chris. those countries don't give out money because they know we will. our politicians will give them whatever they want... without our consent.






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great post Victor!

also, i agree with you, Chris. those countries don't give out money because they know we will. our politicians will give them whatever they want... without our consent.






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Tell me how this works? Our politicians will give them what they want for:
A. contributions to their favorite charity, themselves.
B. Rights to the natural resourses for the corporations.
C. permission to build military bases on their soil.
D. All of the above.
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I'm proud to be a U.S.A. citizen, or as you say: proud to be American. Truly free is a weird concept: because it means different things. Ron Paul is impressive but I don't see how he or anyone else will make any big changes... maybe you can fill me in...
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If any of you are readers out there, James Loewen wrote a book titled Lies My Teacher Told Me. It has just been revised with new information and issued in paperback so it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. It is a very good read on the propaganda that goes into our World and American history books. Much of what you believe about how great our nation was has been taught to you through skewed ideas and texts.
Readers also know that history books are written by winners. the nation is great because it's one of the youngest and the top economy in the world. I personally appreciate objective revision, but the fact is the U.S. is made up of many different people from around the world. I would really appreciate you actually saying something you actually stand by.
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We have 5% of the worlds population. We consume 75% of the worlds goods. uhh... seems a little unbalanced. Its funny, we think we have a right to tell these 'backwards' countries what they should do and how they should go about it. Every time I here about protecting 'our American way of life' I wanna puke. Travel through Germany. You will see folks there have pretty much everything we have. Their country, because of Hitler, was bombed to shit, split by the Soviet Union. Go to Spain, Italy, etc. Same thing. Why? Because they are not out spending the little guys money to make the big guys richer by feeling they have a right, no make that a duty, to 'protect our American way of life'. Their American Way of Life and mine ain't exactly the same.
Can you believe it, we have been told to spend our money when times are hard to keep the economy moving. Here, you don't have any, I'll lend you some of mine, go buy the things you can't afford, so I can afford all the things I want. I'll just a little more money back from you in interest, and raise taxes just a little. You don't support our troops, you are UNAMERICAN. If you want to do what is right for the troops get them the %%456879 out of harms way. 70% of the Iraqi people voted in their election. If we just get out of the way, no let me rephrase that, WHEN we get out of the way, they will have to deal with each other. I watched the ONDCP guy talk about what the International Community, all CIVILIZED nations thing about drugs. Well BULLSHIT.
Check out what LEAP has to say about the war on terror and the war on drugs. Lets say you are a small farmer in Afganistan. And the friut trees you have cared for, been in your family for generations were suddenly wiped out by a bomb. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?? Sit back and say thanks to Alla for protecting the American Way of Life. 5% of the American people 'enjoy' the American way of life. The other 95% pay for it, along with the rest of the WORLDS population and "THEY" have us so indoctrinated we accept all this as being patriotic??
Why should I worry if the stockmarket falls 20 points and the housing market is down? How does that affect me personally?
You talk about freedom, yet you live in the country that has the largest percentage of its population incarcerated. The little people are getting hosed.
Well.. the ice was ready to check so I did. Rant over...at least for now. VV

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Old 10-26-2007, 07:29 AM
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Readers also know that history books are written by winners. the nation is great because it's one of the youngest and the top economy in the world. I personally appreciate objective revision, but the fact is the U.S. is made up of many different people from around the world. I would really appreciate you actually saying something you actually stand by.
Well I stand by the fact that American history and World history text books here in the states are incorrect. Other than that, I do not understand what you are getting at. If you are asking me who I am going to vote for, it will most likely be for the highest rated independent. I vote independent in the hopes that 5% of the vote will go their way for federal matching funds in the next election.
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