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    Quote Originally Posted by dukeofbaja View Post
    Just 'informing us of what is going to happen' while conveniently ignoring the fact that this idea of amnesty which 'forfeits the country for greed of power' was originally espoused by a republican.

    And does your 'ivory standard' include getting this one almost completely wrong?

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    John McCain is a self professed moderate, progressive republican. That's about as close as you can get to being democrat without actually being democrat. Nearly all of these politicians who have or want to run for president really need that hispanic vote so "espousing" amnesty while doing nothing to actually make it happen is a pretty good strategy to insure their vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukeofbaja View Post
    Just 'informing us of what is going to happen' while conveniently ignoring the fact that this idea of amnesty which 'forfeits the country for greed of power' was originally espoused by a republican.

    And does your 'ivory standard' include getting this one almost completely wrong?

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    Unable to see the difference in context....the duke drifts aimlessly along...content in his ignorance.

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    Originally Posted by londonfog
    hmmmm so you think that ALL govenment is out to get you...question ...your fire dept. is part of your government do you fear them as well....what about the DMV are they going to get you too....???? hmmmmmm how do you get out the house ...are you not frightful of those highways that are built and maintained by our government....dude its a time to fear and then there is just straight paranoia... so again I say if my child needs insurance from daddy ( or mommy) until she is 26 I say good job government for making that happen...now how lost are you little scary guy....BOO


    I do not Fear the government itself. I agree that government is a good thing. There certainly is the need to govern the people. But I believe it should be done so in a just manor. I understand that in order for government to govern, money is needed and is attained through forms of revenue such as police, fire dep... Library…etc. I do not fear these forms of government revenue, I agree they are positive and are needed. I do not fear government programs designed to help and protect. I do fear a government mandated institution previously implemented and proven not to work in more than one situation. I do fear particular people’s involvement in our government. People who have lost touch with the people….the high class sustaining their positions… Agree or not there is a high level of corruption in our government. I certainly don’t want these people making decisions for me or my family. There are certain levels of involvement and too much of anything can be bad, even the herb, besides I don’t believe that our politicians plan for the people has much of the people’s benefit involved… It can be prettied up and presented, but the inside of the whole thing is awful ugly, like it or not. "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force"- Jefferson
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    Dishonest and selective editing of my posts won't redeem you, Choad.

    It is clear to everyone here exactly what you are: A goosestepping partisan who will tolerate no deviation from the party line.

    I am willing to help your party achieve a common goal, but you would drive me away.

    In point of fact you are more of a threat to the Conservative movement than I am.
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    Yes I do. And, I believe that the size and scope of government correlates precisely to its intrusiveness. The larger the size and scope of government, the more intrusive.
    Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause by Oath or Affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    The right to privacy holds regardless of the size of government.
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    I believe in equal protection; under the law, John. You don't.
    And the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land.

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    I think the governments role is in enforcing contracts, not dictating the specifics of them. You do.
    Denying someone the same privilege granted to another person based on bigotry is dictating the specifics.
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    You talking about body cavity searches, John? You can't be talking about the right to an abortion here, can you? That is some lopsided logic, if you are...
    I said nothing of the sort. But dictating to a woman what she can or cannot do to her body in the context of a medical decision (abortion) is invasive nonetheless.
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    Freedom of religious expression needn't stop at the federal building doorstep, John. Despite your dissembling, the Constitution still guarantees that right...
    It has no place in the public square. Religion is a private affair.

    If you want to believe in magical, invisible, zombie friends; that's fine with me. I have a right not to be subjected to it in the halls of government.
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    This thread has become total awesomess!!!

    CJ ignores every argument ever made by anyone who disagrees with him but pops up every once in a while to talk shit or chide someone for going off-topic.

    Choda has nothing substantive to contribute, so he just throws around insults and trolls.

    Johnny is pissed off enough about this legislation to swallow his pride and throw his lot in with the bible-thumpers, billionaires and angry hicks of the GOP, but gets in trouble for thinking for himself a bit too much.

    Seriously, this is classic....you guys could almost be in congress!
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    The govt. is good when it stays within it's boundaries.

    That is not the govt. we have today...not at all.

    This is an all out attack on our liberties and freedom. It must not stand... it will not stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackerJax View Post
    The govt. is good when it stays within it's boundaries.

    That is not the govt. we have today...not at all.

    This is an all out attack on our liberties and freedom. It must not stand... it will not stand.

    Ay lets hope anyway, though the voice of opposition is being heard... I fear it may be to little
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    I think what MAY happen is passive resistance at first.

    If millions of ppl refuse to participate in the health care welfare program.....it will collapse.

    I will be one of those ppl. I will NOT participate. I will NOT pay any fines either....I'd rather give my lawyer 100k than a dime to the health care welfare program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackerJax View Post
    I think what MAY happen is passive resistance at first.

    If millions of ppl refuse to participate in the health care welfare program.....it will collapse.

    I will be one of those ppl. I will NOT participate. I will NOT pay any fines either....I'd rather give my lawyer 100k than a dime to the health care welfare program.

    I don't think you have anything to worry about, you'll still be able to qualify for Medicaid and Social Security Disability and not pay anything, all you have to do is show them a few of your posts on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyLikeAnEagle View Post
    I don't think you have anything to worry about, you'll still be able to qualify for Medicaid and Social Security Disability and not pay anything, all you have to do is show them a few of your posts on here.

    Not that easy....


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