
10-11-2007, 04:18 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Inside my mind(sameplaceasyou)
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| | Police chief wants drugs legalised | | Just found this report on yahoo,seems like at least one police officer has his head screwed on 
He has a lot of opposition of course but its just one more step when even police chiefs are getting behind us on the fact that we should not be treated as criminals.
Its one more step forward for us brits anyway LONDON (Reuters) - North Wales police chief Richard Brunstrom has called for all drugs , including heroin, to be legalised because current policy is based on "dogma rather than evidence". Brunstrom said the Misuse of Drugs Act should be repealed as the current UK drugs policy is based upon a "wholly outdated and thoroughly repugnant moralistic stance based upon rhetoric and dogma rather than a rational (and more ethical) philosophy". He also pointed out that it is impossible to combat an industry worth an estimated 8 billion pounds a year in the UK. The chief constable laid out his arguments in a response to a Home office drugs consultation, and will present them to the North Wales Police Authority on Monday. In a report, he calls for a new classification scheme -- a scientifically based "hierarchy of harm" to include all substances of abuse such as nicotine and alchohol. Brunstrom argued that overwhelming evidence suggested drugs could not be eradicated and that the main aim should be to reduce as far as possible the harm they can cause. "If policy on drugs is in future to be pragmatic not moralistic, driven by ethics not dogma, then the current prohibitionist stance will have to be swept away as both unworkable and immoral -- to be replaced with an evidence-based unified system (including tobacco and alcohol) aimed at minimisation of harms to society," the report said. "This logical, rational and consistent approach will inexorably and inevitably lead to the legalisation and regulation of all harmful drugs, in place of the current policy of proscription and enforcement for some drugs and the legal regulation of others, selected subjectively." He said such a policy would reduce drug-related crime and free-up funds for treatment. Brunstrom made similar comments at a Police Federation conference in 2002 but was overwhelmingly opposed by the 700 delegates. On Thursday, the MP for Alyn and Deeside Mark Tami said the claim that the legalisation of heroin was the only way forward was "blinkered and dangerous", and that a more considered drugs policy approach was needed. He was reported by the BBC Web site as saying: "As 280,000 Class A drug users are responsible for half of all crime, taking the risk of legalising such a dangerous drug is foolhardy and I would not wish to gamble so much on the health and wellbeing of our children."
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10-11-2007, 08:12 AM
| | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2007
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| | he should contact L.E.A.P. - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.
They are trying to get the same measures past in the U.S. | 
10-11-2007, 08:24 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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| | [quote=closet.cult;303364]he should contact L.E.A.P. - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. [quote] They are trying to get the same measures past in the U.S Yeah, I saw them on TV having a conversation about the legalization of drugs, very interesting, Example: Just how much money is actually spent on drug prohibition while it could be3 spent on rehab and many other positive things, but the culture is so brainwashed against drugs they would never vote it in. Look who is so against legalization, the primary ones; Prison guards and defense lawyers. Most drug offenders are peaceful dudes and easier to control in prison, makes a prison guards life more tolerable and it is definent job security. Legalization would put thousands out of work.
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10-11-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by natmoon Just found this report on yahoo,seems like at least one police officer has his head screwed on 
He has a lot of opposition of course but its just one more step when even police chiefs are getting behind us on the fact that we should not be treated as criminals.
Its one more step forward for us brits anyway LONDON (Reuters) - North Wales police chief Richard Brunstrom has called for all drugs , including heroin, to be legalised because current policy is based on "dogma rather than evidence". Brunstrom said the Misuse of Drugs Act should be repealed as the current UK drugs policy is based upon a "wholly outdated and thoroughly repugnant moralistic stance based upon rhetoric and dogma rather than a rational (and more ethical) philosophy". He also pointed out that it is impossible to combat an industry worth an estimated 8 billion pounds a year in the UK. The chief constable laid out his arguments in a response to a Home office drugs consultation, and will present them to the North Wales Police Authority on Monday. In a report, he calls for a new classification scheme -- a scientifically based "hierarchy of harm" to include all substances of abuse such as nicotine and alchohol. Brunstrom argued that overwhelming evidence suggested drugs could not be eradicated and that the main aim should be to reduce as far as possible the harm they can cause. "If policy on drugs is in future to be pragmatic not moralistic, driven by ethics not dogma, then the current prohibitionist stance will have to be swept away as both unworkable and immoral -- to be replaced with an evidence-based unified system (including tobacco and alcohol) aimed at minimisation of harms to society," the report said. "This logical, rational and consistent approach will inexorably and inevitably lead to the legalisation and regulation of all harmful drugs, in place of the current policy of proscription and enforcement for some drugs and the legal regulation of others, selected subjectively." He said such a policy would reduce drug-related crime and free-up funds for treatment. Brunstrom made similar comments at a Police Federation conference in 2002 but was overwhelmingly opposed by the 700 delegates. On Thursday, the MP for Alyn and Deeside Mark Tami said the claim that the legalisation of heroin was the only way forward was "blinkered and dangerous", and that a more considered drugs policy approach was needed. He was reported by the BBC Web site as saying: "As 280,000 Class A drug users are responsible for half of all crime, taking the risk of legalising such a dangerous drug is foolhardy and I would not wish to gamble so much on the health and wellbeing of our children." | Fuckin' A!! Go, go, go that Chief Constable!  
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10-11-2007, 05:40 PM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northeastern USA
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Originally Posted by closet.cult he should contact L.E.A.P. - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.
They are trying to get the same measures past in the U.S. | passed, we want to go back to the past. VV  | 
10-11-2007, 07:38 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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Originally Posted by VictorVIcious passed, we want to go back to the past. VV  | Not really, passed, I saw it and corrected. But if you went back about a hundred years, coke, morphine and Marijuana were all legal.
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10-11-2007, 07:49 PM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by medicineman Not really, passed, I saw it and corrected. But if you went back about a hundred years, coke, morphine and Marijuana were all legal. | oddly enough when cocaine and morphine were first developed they were herald as miracle drugs much in the same way pot is claimed to be now | 
10-11-2007, 07:55 PM
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