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Old 09-24-2007, 12:06 PM
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Thumbs down ENDA - the end of indepent thought?
as democrats continue to bow to their rich, powerful special interest groups, they have authored and support yet another attack on freedom of speech.

a few times this year we've seen them attack the right of pastors to describe homosexuality, bestiality, and other sexual deviance (diversity?) as a sin, which the bible says it is, and even attempt to punish people who voice their personal opinion. if they had their way it would now be a felony hate crime to say that you believe homosexuality is wrong, or that same sex couples are un-natural.

no matter what you believe, i hope we can agree that no one should have their mouth forced shut by legislation like this.

this week, democrats are seeking to enact the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which would "make it illegal to fire, refuse to hire, or refuse to promote an employee based on his sexual orientation or "gender identity."

now, i read this as a legal open door to high dollar lawsuits anytime a business owner decides not to hire a reasonably qualified cross-dresser or anyone who build their life around advertising their sexuality. (anyone still wonder why the dems get so much money from the trial lawyer lobby??) what if you hire John and he mutilates himself and changes his name to Jessica? what if you just don't like the image you project to your customers by having flagrantly gay people in certain positions?

what's everyone think, should the government be your HR department and tell you what your guidelines for hiring/firing are?

support for this bill is almost strictly democrat, do the leftist/dems here believe that the government should take this role?




WashingtonWatch.com - H.R. 2015, The Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2007






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i dont understabd. seems like the postis contradictory...

sounds like the bill is supporting freedom... and yet you are against it.. cause you think it is taking freedom away..

it basically says.. if I understand you correctly.. that

"you can suck as much KAK as you like, regardless of being a man or woman.. and "we" can not fire you or hire you based on your KAK sucking prefences"

i'm cool with that.... suck away
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:21 PM
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i dont understabd. seems like the postis contradictory...

sounds like the bill is supporting freedom... and yet you are against it.. cause you think it is taking freedom away..

it basically says.. if I understand you correctly.. that

"you can suck as much KAK as you like, regardless of being a man or woman.. and "we" can not fire you or hire you based on your KAK sucking prefences"

i'm cool with that.... suck away
the government is stepping into each and every business in America and telling them that they must not use KAK sucking as a factor... what if i own a Christian book store, do i not have the right to pass on hiring someone who flagrantly advertises and subjects everyone to their preference of KAK sucking? what is my role in my business if i can't hire/fire who i want?

what if all the nose pickers of America unite? what if there was a law that said you must not hire/fire based on public nose picking? some people see this as a respect issue.






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Old 09-24-2007, 01:00 PM
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interesting point about the christian book store.....

I agree that a nazi bookstore, probably doe not wantto hire a jew as the front counter man... i see how this may not be good for business..

or a TITTY BAR Strip club hiring men to strip.... can a man be denied a job as a female stripper? is this sexist?


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Old 09-24-2007, 01:14 PM
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lol, you got it, that's my problem with the law. think of how many lawsuits would pop up! talk about a state of paranoia, wow, every business owner would be worried sick all the time.

nevermind the freedom to run my business how i want to, i don't think gay people want to work where they aren't wanted... why would they? it would do the same kind of damage that affirmative action did/does to blacks; everyone wonders if they "really" deserved the job or if they simply had to be hired to make the numbers.






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fook.... i hope this does not look like I am agreeing wiith you???????

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LOL, how anyone can turn a bill promoting human rights into a nazi loving gay bashing nose picking turmoil, and bash the democrats for trying to help rationalize society is incredible. No, your employer should not have the right to fire you based on his opinion of your sexual status. Firing should be based on job performance and sexual orientation left off the table. Any rational compassionate human being should see this clearly. It's funny how all the Bible thumpers want to make your sexual orientation an issue, I don't believe Jesus, (Who I think supercedes all old testament bullshit), would make an issue out of a persons sexual orientation, Nosepickers, maybe.-
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LOL, how anyone can turn a bill promoting human rights into a nazi loving gay bashing nose picking turmoil, and bash the democrats for trying to help rationalize society is incredible. No, your employer should not have the right to fire you based on his opinion of your sexual status. Firing should be based on job performance and sexual orientation left off the table. Any rational compassionate human being should see this clearly. It's funny how all the Bible thumpers want to make your sexual orientation an issue, I don't believe Jesus, (Who I think supercedes all old testament bullshit), would make an issue out of a persons sexual orientation, Nosepickers, maybe.-
And, do the employers not have "human rights?"

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what are you talking about, med? i've already said i don't care about your sexual preferences. it's about the rights of business owners to make their own decisions.

how can you defend laws that force people to overlook something that might be fundamentally important to them? i bet you think it was a-ok when the city of San Fran forced those firefighters to walk in that gay pride parade didn't you? you think it's fine to bulldoze any opinions that aren't like yours.

who's the nazi? your hypocrisy is sickening.







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I can understand a business trying to project an image but if a person is qualified to do the job asked then why should they be denied?

you brought up the point: what if the person is flagrantly gay? how is that different from some who is just a natural jackass OR if you're worried about the sexual advances, then what about people who constantly flirt with customers? my point is if they're acting unprofessionally in a way that costs the company some business then fire them for professional misconduct. If their sexuality doesn't interfere with their job then they should be allowed the job (assuming the person is qualified).
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