Legal Loopholes in our Favor - Page 2

UncleSunny · #11 09-19-2007, 12:18 PM

Lemmie guess, Medicine Man, you live in a state like Nevada, that requires all patients to resigter with the police. Yeah, I wouldn't do that either.
The law about this is incredibly clear-there is no way ANYONE, not the FBI not the CIA, not the President himself can look at your medical records unless they are a doctor or authorized medical personnel, or you submit them to the government because of a security clearance issue in certain government jobs. It is called the Right To Privacy Act of 1984, and this act is supported by HIPAA (Learn more at www.hipaa.org ) which protects your medical records from anyone. Anything you discuss with a doctor, and anything that your doctor recommends to you which is allowed by the state is a matter of the utmost privacy, and any government agent looking into your medical records is a straight up felony.

However the reality of life is much different than the law. These State programs that make you register with anybody besides your doctor is simply a matter of legislators breaking laws because no one understands their rights.
I'll be honest with you, I think most people are smarter just to lay low and break the law. Even though the DEA is not allowed to look up my records and any State Data base [the in letter of the law] is completely illegal and unconstitutional; the reality is that large men with body armor and assult rifles can bust through my door because I smoke pot. If you are just a smoker and never have more than an ounce on you, there isn't much to worry about. Even in States that rail against marijuana only see it as a summary offence and you pay a fine, with prehaps some community service.

Fucking Patriot Act, it's gonna destroy everything our ancestors fought for.

TheConstantGardner · #12 09-19-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleSunny

Fucking Patriot Act, it's gonna destroy everything our ancestors fought for.

Truth of the matter, it already has.

Warrantless searches - check
Imprisonment without representation - check
Denial of a speedy trial - check
Torture - check
etc. etc. etc...

Kant · #13 09-19-2007, 03:24 PM

you should also add to the list:

indefinite detention without charge;

medicineman · #14 09-19-2007, 03:46 PM

Just remember, these were all plans laid out by Bush and the neo-cons way before 911. They were either waiting for a 911, or planning it, I'd venture the planning model. Barring all the conspiracy theories, does it not make sense that they might have had a hand in planning a hit on the US to allow them to implement their evil plans, and start a war for profit. Seems very logical to me.
To really get the feel of the bush agenda you must do some background reading on him and the cast of characters, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Pearle, etc. Then it all seems to come together, how to destroy our rights and start an endless war seems very reasonable through their eyes.
What surprises me is that more people haven't discovered this and stood up to them. The democraps just keep nodding their heads and going right along with the plan, amazing.

TheConstantGardner · #15 09-19-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kant

you should also add to the list:

indefinite detention without charge;

I was struggling with wording. Let us not forget that we can now be tried military tribunal style. No judge. No jury...

There is something more evil, more corrupt, and with more power than our government. It's called the Federal Reserve. It is the driving force.

Kant · #16 09-19-2007, 05:01 PM

it's times like these when i seriously consider moving to canada

medicineman · #17 09-20-2007, 12:35 PM

Canada, beautiful, but way too cold for a desert dweller.

Lacy · #18 09-21-2007, 06:56 AM

I live in Canada and our laws are different here. If you qualify to use cannibis legally then you have to have an illness that benefits from taking it. I qualify and am in the process of being legally able to grow my own marijuana. I haven't let down my guard but this definitely opens the door to not feeling like a criminal because I happen to smoke pot. I'm not looking to grow to sell for profit, I am just happy that our government has slacked off a bit about this. I really am looking into this each and every day to find out more and more about it but it does look promising.

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Originally Posted by UncleSunny

Um, what you heard is sort of true...but you can still, really, really get busted if this is all you know about what you recently heard. The concept of "caregiver" is a tricky, tricky spot in any State you are living in. Trust me. For example, those of you in Cali, growing weed or operating in a caregiver's club, look up Senate Bill 529. It applies to you, and unless you are a tireless freak about understanding the legality of your job, you just might go to jail.
Even landlords, under the Rico Act, can spend time in a Federal Prison for allowing a cannabis club on your property.

I dunno. Being paranoid can seem crazy, but there aren't a lot of highly paranoid people who get caught. It's when you let your gaurd down that they cornhole ya.

UncleSunny · #19 09-21-2007, 08:37 AM

oh great Canada,
We foolish Americans have much to learn. I would move to Canada, but much like Medicine Man, snow and ice don't go well with me. Spent my first three decades living in the cold Ohio Valley, and well, Southern California has spoiled me for all time.
But yeah, Canada doesn't have the same issues America does. Sorry for the mistake, Lacy.
Peace.

Kant · #20 09-21-2007, 09:08 AM

I love snow. i just don't know where in canada i would want to live.