Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

**7xstall** · 09-18-2007, 11:19 AM

i would say that this episode, and the lack of outcry, is shocking, but we've witnessed the all out assault from the left on freedom of speech for years. they are simply coming out to endorse police brutality - the only logical way to enforce anti-speech. in the past few years we've seen cops tazer children and old people to death, even foreign visitors who can't understand what the police are saying... now we can expect to see anyone who questions authority tazed into submission by our friendly para-military police. if this isn't scary nothing is.

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

Partisan bickering obscures heart of the issue as Fox News, MSNBC set up phony debate by making Kerry's behavior focus of story, not oppressive actions of thug cops.

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Media coverage of a University of Florida student being tazered by cops for asking a question didn't spark a debate about ongoing police brutality and political persecution, but instead prompted partisan bickering and mindless ninnying about John Kerry's behavior during the incident, while leftist blogs defended the actions of the police.

Andrew Meyer was grabbed by cops yesterday after he asked the former presidential candidate why he didn't challenge the rigged election of 2004 and about his membership of the skull and bones secret society. Meyer asked police what he was being arrested for as they dragged him to the back of the University Auditorium before manhandling him to the ground.

As the photo above shows, two female officers, one with some kind of gangland tattoo on her arm, seem to be smiling with pleasure as they move in to seize Meyer.

Only when Meyer was immobile and had five officers on top of him did the police decide to send 50,000 volts of electricity coursing through his prostrate body, seemingly waiting until Meyer begged them not to do it so as to enjoy the maximum power trip from administrating the torture.

Fox News, MSNBC and others relentlessly replayed the video yesterday - not as a shocking indictment of the police's actions during the incident, but to discuss John Kerry's behavior and the fact that he continued taking questions while Meyer was being brutalized.

This prompted leftist blogs like News Hounds to slam Fox for endlessly showing the footage as Democrat websites closed ranks and either ignored what was a savage act of police brutality and political persecution or simply claimed Fox News were hyping the story.

They even defended the actions of the police in stating the cops were right to tazer Meyer as he lay on the floor. Imagine if this had happened during a town hall meeting with Bush - liberals would have screamed bloody murder and rightly so - but in this instance they applaud the police for their act of torture simply because Meyer dared question their idol John Kerry.

Another detail left out of press reports is Meyer's political affiliation - he is not a Neo-Con who was attempting to put John Kerry on the spot as Fox News has tried to portray - he was a 9/11 truther. Meyer links to the 9/11 Mysteries documentary from the home page of his website.

Beyond the mindless partisan ninnying, the heart of the issue is that this was another act of wanton police brutality and torture by means of tazering.

The police are now trained that "pain compliance," a euphemism for torture, is acceptable in apprehending anyone even if that person poses no physical danger.

In many cases, cops will tazer someone even if they offer no resistance whatsoever, simply for the sick enjoyment of the power trip as the victim begs and pleads not to be tortured. They also seem to get a kick out of tazering young children and even toddlers.

Take the case of UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (video above) , who was stunned over and over again for refusing to show his ID at a campus library.

Tabatabainejad agreed to leave and was on his way out of the building before cops tazered him and then proceeded to order him to get back on his feet just so they could shock him over and over again as he cried and moaned for them to stop.

The bottom line is that Taser use is being abused by police all over the country as cops are trained that torture is a perfectly acceptable response to somebody who asks the wrong question or refuses to show their papers.

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

**medicineman** · 09-18-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by 7xstall

i would say that this episode, and the lack of outcry, is shocking, but we've witnessed the all out assault from the left on freedom of speech for years. they are simply coming out to endorse police brutality - the only logical way to enforce anti-speech. in the past few years we've seen cops tazer children and old people to death, even foreign visitors who can't understand what the police are saying... now we can expect to see anyone who questions authority tazed into submission by our friendly para-military police. if this isn't scary nothing is.

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

Partisan bickering obscures heart of the issue as Fox News, MSNBC set up phony debate by making Kerry's behavior focus of story, not oppressive actions of thug cops.

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Media coverage of a University of Florida student being tazered by cops for asking a question didn't spark a debate about ongoing police brutality and political persecution, but instead prompted partisan bickering and mindless ninnying about John Kerry's behavior during the incident, while leftist blogs defended the actions of the police.

Andrew Meyer was grabbed by cops yesterday after he asked the former presidential candidate why he didn't challenge the rigged election of 2004 and about his membership of the skull and bones secret society. Meyer asked police what he was being arrested for as they dragged him to the back of the University Auditorium before manhandling him to the ground.

As the photo above shows, two female officers, one with some kind of gangland tattoo on her arm, seem to be smiling with pleasure as they move in to seize Meyer.

Only when Meyer was immobile and had five officers on top of him did the police decide to send 50,000 volts of electricity coursing through his prostrate body, seemingly waiting until Meyer begged them not to do it so as to enjoy the maximum power trip from administrating the torture.

Fox News, MSNBC and others relentlessly replayed the video yesterday - not as a shocking indictment of the police's actions during the incident, but to discuss John Kerry's behavior and the fact that he continued taking questions while Meyer was being brutalized.

This prompted leftist blogs like News Hounds to slam Fox for endlessly showing the footage as Democrat websites closed ranks and either ignored what was a savage act of police brutality and political persecution or simply claimed Fox News were hyping the story.

They even defended the actions of the police in stating the cops were right to tazer Meyer as he lay on the floor. Imagine if this had happened during a town hall meeting with Bush - liberals would have screamed bloody murder and rightly so - but in this instance they applaud the police for their act of torture simply because Meyer dared question their idol John Kerry.

Another detail left out of press reports is Meyer's political affiliation - he is not a Neo-Con who was attempting to put John Kerry on the spot as Fox News has tried to portray - he was a 9/11 truther. Meyer links to the 9/11 Mysteries documentary from the home page of his website.

Beyond the mindless partisan ninnying, the heart of the issue is that this was another act of wanton police brutality and torture by means of tazering.

The police are now trained that "pain compliance," a euphemism for torture, is acceptable in apprehending anyone even if that person poses no physical danger.

In many cases, cops will tazer someone even if they offer no resistance whatsoever, simply for the sick enjoyment of the power trip as the victim begs and pleads not to be tortured. They also seem to get a kick out of tazering young children and even toddlers.

Take the case of UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (video above) , who was stunned over and over again for refusing to show his ID at a campus library.

Tabatabainejad agreed to leave and was on his way out of the building before cops tazered him and then proceeded to order him to get back on his feet just so they could shock him over and over again as he cried and moaned for them to stop.

The bottom line is that Taser use is being abused by police all over the country as cops are trained that torture is a perfectly acceptable response to somebody who asks the wrong question or refuses to show their papers.

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

7X, at least they let him in. At all the Bush and friend speeches, they screen the spectators and if you aren a bush clone, you don't even get in. Why do you think Bush gives 90% of his speeches in front of the troops, they can't say a word or they will be court martialed. And I have seen many protesters dragged out of speeches railing against bush policies also, the Petreaous hearing was one, they manhandled that poor woman almost ripping her clothes off. there are crazies on both sides and the pigs (COPS) don't care which, but are probably more biased against Bush protestors.

**TheConstantGardner** · 09-18-2007, 03:34 PM

any updates on what happened to that guy?

**7xstall** · 09-19-2007, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by medicineman

7X, at least they let him in. At all the Bush and friend speeches, they screen the spectators and if you aren a bush clone, you don't even get in. Why do you think Bush gives 90% of his speeches in front of the troops, they can't say a word or they will be court martialed. And I have seen many protesters dragged out of speeches railing against bush policies also, the Petreaous hearing was one, they manhandled that poor woman almost ripping her clothes off. there are crazies on both sides and the pigs (COPS) don't care which, but are probably more biased against Bush protestors.

yes, i realize the crowds at Bush events in America are screened, this is why you never see Bush speaking in other countries - they won't filter the audience.

freedom of speech has become too inconvenient for the elite, all of them. our words and expression are an infringement on their peaceful rule and we have to put a stop to this madness. the police is out of control and they hardly ever get punished when they abuse citizens.

i commend Mr. Kerry for asking that the student be allowed to finish his question, he was clearly not happy about the half-dozen police rushing toward the student to silence him.

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**7xstall** · 09-19-2007, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by TheConstantGardner

any updates on what happened to that guy?

the university is doing an investigation.. people are saying he has a very solid case if he wants to sue.

i just wonder why he can't file criminal complaints against the disgusting cops who were torturing him???? if i did that to some random guy i'd go to jail, let's send THEM to prison to pay the price!

those cops should at least be charged with these crimes, if nothing else:
false imprisonment
assault with a deadly weapon
assault
kidnapping
abusing power of a peace officer

the public needs to demand that they are held to account!

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**ViRedd** · 09-19-2007, 03:24 PM

Hmmm ... I saw it completely differently from you guys. I saw a young man who was disrupting the meeting. When asked to leave, he refused and started to shout, being even more of a disruption. He was asked to leave again ... and again started yelling. As the attempt was made to escort him out, he started resisting. That brought more cops into the fray. The female officer warned him several times to stop resisting or he would be tazed. He didn't stop resisting, so he was tazed. Personally, I think he knew EXACTLY what he was doing and got the exact reaction and results he wanted.

If the police can't get someone to comply with their orders to disperse, what methods other than tazing should they use? I mean, they used to use brass knuckles in the old days back in Chicago.

Vi

**Kant** · 09-19-2007, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by ViRedd

Hmmm ... I saw it completely differently from you guys. I saw a young man who was disrupting the meeting. When asked to leave, he refused and started to shout, being even more of a disruption. He was asked to leave again ... and again started yelling. As the attempt was made to escort him out, he started resisting. That brought more cops into the fray. The female officer warned him several times to stop resisting or he would be tazed. He didn't stop resisting, so he was tazed. Personally, I think he knew EXACTLY what he was doing and got the exact reaction and results he wanted.

If the police can't get someone to comply with their orders to disperse, what methods other than tazing should they use? I mean, they used to use brass knuckles in the old days back in Chicago.

Vi

I've watched it couple of times and i don't understand how you see their actions as justified. The guy asked a very odd and long winded question but i wouldn't say he was disrupting the meeting. he was standing at one of the mics that was setup for questions.

when he was being escorted out by the police he ask what he was being arrested for and (thx to the mic) you can hear them say. "would you please come with us sir". they never actually said what or if they were arresting him at first. So either they weren't arresting him so then he wasn't resisting arrest OR he was being arrested and they never told him why which legally hazy because they have to answer that question at that time. if they don't, i don't know what the legal ramifications of that is.

At the very end, he did try to get away, so i understand why they jumped him. However right before they tasered him, he had 6 officers on top of him and all of them sitting pretty still so there wasn't any struggle going on. He then says "Don't tase me" repeatedly and they electrocute him anyway.

They had half a dozen very large men on him and they still had to tase him?

**ViRedd** · 09-19-2007, 07:03 PM

They were trying to get the guy under control so they could escort him out of the building. He was resisting, therefore the tazer. I'll watch the video again, I'm sure ... cuz its all over the news now. But again ... the guy was being totally obnoxious in a public forum. It wasn't the question he was asking, it was his attitude and resistance to the police command to move on. Like I said, before they had tazers, they had blackjacks and brass knuckles.

Vi

**Kant** · 09-19-2007, 07:16 PM

i understand the need to tackle after he started resisting; i still believe the use of the taser was way too excessive especially since they clearly had the situation under control; But what sparked the initial need to escort him out/arrest him? People ask obnoxious rude long winded questions at open forums all the time. Maybe if he was being hostile or made threatening comments towards kerry, the guy was clearly in support of kerry.

**7xstall** · 09-20-2007, 07:49 AM

well Vi, i don't think we need to regulate public discourse based on the level of enthusiasm or the speaking style of the person asking our leaders questions. he was emotional and he obviously felt strongly about his questions, some people are just more expressive of how they feel. mr. Kerry asked that he be allowed to finish.

he didn't use profanity or make threats and according to people who were there he wasn't overly dramatic until the half-dozen cops started rushing him.

as far as dispersing people, i'd say yeah, go with the brass knuckles. cheap and highly effective, no need for special training or anything. if the cops need to move people it should be for a really good reason and they should do it with tools that encourage people to leave quickly. the non-lethal gimmicks like tazers are just a silly substitute for real law enforcement, they seem to encourage people to disregard the law more and take authority less seriously. maybe this is even causing or contributing to the trend of over-escalation on the part of officers???? if you had your choice of getting a couple good licks from a steel baton or a zap from some electronic gizmo standing between you and freedom, which would you prefer? lol

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the idea that this was a prank reminds me of something i once did as a teen. i had borrowed my dad's clean truck, a friend was with me, both clean at the time. i do believe we had a good buzz though. a cop happened to get behind us and i had the great idea to mess with him. we passed a marlboro back and forth, holding it just right, laughing, etc.. of course the blue lights came on, that's what i wanted. i slowed and stuck my hand out the window to wave the officer around, he didn't pass. i carried on for a quarter mile or so, telling my friend to look around and act like he was hiding stuff, waving the cop on, acting like i had no clue... finally i pulled over and boy did i give that guy a hard time, there's nothing like having 4 Aces! they called in K-9, brought in other officers - what a hoot! lucky for us they didn't have tazers.

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