Forum Shop Market
Seeds FAQ Tools
SEE OUR MARIJUANA SEED GUIDE FOR THE BEST STRAINS
Looking for Legal Marijuana look no further!
Go Back   Marijuana Growing > Cannabis Cafe > Politics


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21    
Old 09-21-2007, 08:36 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,116
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
I've now seen the ENTIRE video. I suspect there are some of you who've only seen what your media want's you to see. The guy deserved to be escorted out of the venue. He resisted. They tried to get him in handcuffs. He continued to resist. In spite of numerous warnings that he was going to be tazed, he continued shouting and resisting. The asshole deserved what he got ... which was nothing more than an electrical shock that ensured his compliance. The only person who was being brutal was the perp himself.

Note to the younger generation: When asked to leave a meeting place by the police ... leave the fucking meeting place. If you fight, the police will fight back. They have the law on their side ... and you don't.

Vi
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
Reply With Quote
  #22    
Old 09-23-2007, 12:19 PM
GrowRebel's Avatar
Veteran Smoker
Mr. Ganja
GrowRebel is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ohio ... got rid of the repukes:)
Posts: 2,142
GrowRebel is just really niceGrowRebel is just really niceGrowRebel is just really niceGrowRebel is just really niceGrowRebel is just really nice
Points: 12,089, Level: 16 Points: 12,089, Level: 16 Points: 12,089, Level: 16
Activity: 3% Activity: 3% Activity: 3%
Arrow ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bull .... this is what I saw on the video ... only a brownshirt type thinks this kid deserved to be arrested and tased.

Florida campus cops on leave after Taser incident

(CNN) -- Two University of Florida police officers have been placed on leave with pay after using an electronic stun gun to subdue a student who was questioning Sen. John Kerry at a campus forum, the school's president said Tuesday.

The Florida Division of Law Enforcement will investigate Monday's arrest of student Andrew Meyer, said J. Bernard Machen. Machen called the incident "regretful for us."

"The thing that I regret is that civil dialogue and civil discourse did not happen," Machen said. "That's fundamental to a university campus. Why it didn't happen is what we're trying to sort out."

During Monday's forum, Meyer came to the microphone to question why the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee from Massachusetts did not contest his loss to President Bush in the pivotal state of Ohio over allegations that African-American voters were disenfranchised, why he did not support Bush's impeachment and whether he belonged to the Yale University secret society Skull and Bones, as Bush did.

Meyer had about a minute and a half at the microphone before police stepped in to haul him away. As he tried to escape their grip, Kerry protested, "That's all right, let me answer his question." VideoWatch the incident unfold »

But as Meyer repeatedly questioned why he was being arrested, officers dragged him to the back of the auditorium and then used a Taser on him when he continued to struggle.

While Kerry pleaded for calm, officers warned the student he would be shocked if he did not stop resisting.

Meyer responded, "What did I do? Get off me ... get the f--- off me, man, I didn't do anything. Don't Tase me, bro, I didn't do anything."

Meyer was charged with resisting arrest with violence -- a felony -- and a misdemeanor count of disturbing the peace. He was released without having to post bond Tuesday.

Machen said the clips posted online paint an incomplete picture of the scene. Watch the university's reactionVideo

University spokesman Steve Orlando said before police moved in, Meyer was asked to relinquish the microphone because he was "being disruptive."

But the arrest triggered a protest by a group of University of Florida students Tuesday. One of them, Benjamin Dictor, called the arrest "an assault on reason itself."

"For a question to be met with arrest, not to mention physical violence, is completely unacceptable in the United States," Dictor said.

Some students cheered Meyer's removal, and others looked on quietly. But several screamed in protest when officers prepared to shock him.

Meyer has a Web site that features videos of him taking part in several practical jokes. It also includes a "disorganized diatribe" that criticizes the war in Iraq and the media.

In a statement issued Tuesday, Kerry said he didn't know a Taser had been used on the student until after he left the event, and said he hoped no one was injured.

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," he said.

"I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but again, I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention."

Machen said authorities have not determined whether Tasers were used improperly.

In addition, he said a student-faculty review panel will examine "all of our protocols relative to student dialogue and faculty interaction" in the wake of the incident.

For some reason CNN changed the story ... but the above accout is what I saw in the video. The kid didn't resist ... he just wanted to know ... and rightly so ... why he was being arrested. He said he would leave, but they wouldn't let him.
__________________
Our Beautiful Ladies ...
Keep Them Safe Keep Them SECRET!
911 ... inside job!
Reply With Quote
  #23    
Old 09-24-2007, 10:16 AM
medicineman's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
medicineman is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
Posts: 12,670
medicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 40,665, Level: 29 Points: 40,665, Level: 29 Points: 40,665, Level: 29
Activity: 22% Activity: 22% Activity: 22%
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrowRebel View Post
Bull .... this is what I saw on the video ... only a brownshirt type thinks this kid deserved to be arrested and tased.

Florida campus cops on leave after Taser incident

(CNN) -- Two University of Florida police officers have been placed on leave with pay after using an electronic stun gun to subdue a student who was questioning Sen. John Kerry at a campus forum, the school's president said Tuesday.

The Florida Division of Law Enforcement will investigate Monday's arrest of student Andrew Meyer, said J. Bernard Machen. Machen called the incident "regretful for us."

"The thing that I regret is that civil dialogue and civil discourse did not happen," Machen said. "That's fundamental to a university campus. Why it didn't happen is what we're trying to sort out."

During Monday's forum, Meyer came to the microphone to question why the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee from Massachusetts did not contest his loss to President Bush in the pivotal state of Ohio over allegations that African-American voters were disenfranchised, why he did not support Bush's impeachment and whether he belonged to the Yale University secret society Skull and Bones, as Bush did.

Meyer had about a minute and a half at the microphone before police stepped in to haul him away. As he tried to escape their grip, Kerry protested, "That's all right, let me answer his question." VideoWatch the incident unfold »

But as Meyer repeatedly questioned why he was being arrested, officers dragged him to the back of the auditorium and then used a Taser on him when he continued to struggle.

While Kerry pleaded for calm, officers warned the student he would be shocked if he did not stop resisting.

Meyer responded, "What did I do? Get off me ... get the f--- off me, man, I didn't do anything. Don't Tase me, bro, I didn't do anything."

Meyer was charged with resisting arrest with violence -- a felony -- and a misdemeanor count of disturbing the peace. He was released without having to post bond Tuesday.

Machen said the clips posted online paint an incomplete picture of the scene. Watch the university's reactionVideo

University spokesman Steve Orlando said before police moved in, Meyer was asked to relinquish the microphone because he was "being disruptive."

But the arrest triggered a protest by a group of University of Florida students Tuesday. One of them, Benjamin Dictor, called the arrest "an assault on reason itself."

"For a question to be met with arrest, not to mention physical violence, is completely unacceptable in the United States," Dictor said.

Some students cheered Meyer's removal, and others looked on quietly. But several screamed in protest when officers prepared to shock him.

Meyer has a Web site that features videos of him taking part in several practical jokes. It also includes a "disorganized diatribe" that criticizes the war in Iraq and the media.

In a statement issued Tuesday, Kerry said he didn't know a Taser had been used on the student until after he left the event, and said he hoped no one was injured.

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," he said.

"I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but again, I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention."

Machen said authorities have not determined whether Tasers were used improperly.

In addition, he said a student-faculty review panel will examine "all of our protocols relative to student dialogue and faculty interaction" in the wake of the incident.

For some reason CNN changed the story ... but the above accout is what I saw in the video. The kid didn't resist ... he just wanted to know ... and rightly so ... why he was being arrested. He said he would leave, but they wouldn't let him.
Remember Kent State. Police under Republican administrations, seem to think they can get away with more, and it's pretty obvious they can. Just look at how that neo-con VI looks at this situation: The police were right, the student deserved to be tased, no civil disobedience allowed, etc.
In other words, welcome to the police state, get used to it and don't resist.
__________________
Life is good, the water is sweet. The ground keeps moving beneath my feet.
Reply With Quote
  #24    
Old 09-24-2007, 07:06 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,116
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
Bull shit, Med. Watch the video. The guy was being disruptive. He was asked to leave. He refused to leave. He became combative. He was warned several times. He refused to comply with each warning. He was tazed into compliance, handcuffed and escorted out. End of story.

Vi
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
Reply With Quote
  #25    
Old 09-24-2007, 09:20 PM
7xstall's Avatar
Veteran Smoker
Mr. Ganja
7xstall is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: dixie
Posts: 2,132
7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold
Points: 7,632, Level: 12 Points: 7,632, Level: 12 Points: 7,632, Level: 12
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViRedd View Post
Bull shit, Med. Watch the video. The guy was being disruptive. He was asked to leave. He refused to leave. He became combative. He was warned several times. He refused to comply with each warning. He was tazed into compliance, handcuffed and escorted out. End of story.

Vi


didn't they taze him in handcuffs? if so, wouldn't that be compelling evidence of an abuse of power?












.
__________________
"But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race."

- Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States of America, Hero to the servants of big government, Racist War Monger
Reply With Quote
  #26    
Old 09-24-2007, 09:35 PM
Mr.Ganja
Mr. Ganja
Kant is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: bat cave
Posts: 3,167
Kant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant futureKant has a brilliant future
Points: 11,974, Level: 15 Points: 11,974, Level: 15 Points: 11,974, Level: 15
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7xstall View Post
didn't they taze him in handcuffs? if so, wouldn't that be compelling evidence of an abuse of power?

it's hard to say whether or not he had handcuffs on but even if he didn't, there were 5 very large officers sitting on top of him. Tasers are supposed to be used as a last resort to restore order to a situation. How could it be reasoned that even though the student was pinned down, the use of the taser was still necessary to restore order to the situation?
__________________
come join us on our island.
Reply With Quote
  #27    
Old 09-25-2007, 03:09 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,116
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
I don't recall him being in handcuffs when he was tazed. What I saw was the cops trying to get the handcuffs on, and the guy was resisting that. The female cop was the one shouting the warnings about tazing. Even though he had "five" cops on top of him, he was continuing to resist. He continued to resist inspite of the tazing warnings. I think any rational human being would stop resisting at that point. In fact, a rational human being would have just allowed himself to be escorted out of the building upon the first request. Personally, I think the idiot had an agenda. Did you guys notice how many students just "happened" to have video cameras on hand?

Vi
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
Reply With Quote
  #28    
Old 09-25-2007, 03:13 PM
medicineman's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
medicineman is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
Posts: 12,670
medicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 40,665, Level: 29 Points: 40,665, Level: 29 Points: 40,665, Level: 29
Activity: 22% Activity: 22% Activity: 22%
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViRedd View Post
I don't recall him being in handcuffs when he was tazed. What I saw was the cops trying to get the handcuffs on, and the guy was resisting that. The female cop was the one shouting the warnings about tazing. Even though he had "five" cops on top of him, he was continuing to resist. He continued to resist inspite of the tazing warnings. I think any rational human being would stop resisting at that point. In fact, a rational human being would have just allowed himself to be escorted out of the building upon the first request. Personally, I think the idiot had an agenda. Did you guys notice how many students just "happened" to have video cameras on hand?

Vi
If the agenda was to highlight police violence and abuse, then he was very successful. Can you only imagine how many abuses go on off camera. I'll bet when there are no cameras around, the police use tasers for fun. They seem to enjoy it.
__________________
Life is good, the water is sweet. The ground keeps moving beneath my feet.
Reply With Quote
  #29    
Old 09-26-2007, 03:28 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,116
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
Quote:
Originally Posted by medicineman View Post
If the agenda was to highlight police violence and abuse, then he was very successful. Can you only imagine how many abuses go on off camera. I'll bet when there are no cameras around, the police use tasers for fun. They seem to enjoy it.
What you (and others) see as violence and abuse, I see as compliance control. And, you know what? Maybe some police enjoy the whole scene, but most would rather not get their uniforms and bodies torn up.

Vi
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
Reply With Quote
  #30    
Old 09-26-2007, 05:02 PM
medicineman's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
medicineman is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
Posts: 12,670
medicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond reputemedicineman has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 40,665, Level: 29 Points: 40,665, Level: 29 Points: 40,665, Level: 29
Activity: 22% Activity: 22% Activity: 22%
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViRedd View Post
What you (and others) see as violence and abuse, I see as compliance control. And, you know what? Maybe some police enjoy the whole scene, but most would rather not get their uniforms and bodies torn up.

Vi
VI, It's me and a whole lot of others that see the police violence as unnecessary. I watch Cops and yeah, there are times when they need to restrain individuals, but most times, there are 3-4 big cops sitting all over the guy, twisting him into a pretzel yelling "don't resist, quit resisting", when the poor guy couldn't resist if he wanted. That is just what the police use to justify beating the shit out of someone. Hey, if you fart while getting arrested it is called resisting. When a guy comes into the police station all beat to shit, all the cops have to say is he resisted.
__________________
Life is good, the water is sweet. The ground keeps moving beneath my feet.
 

Tags
leftist, blogs, defend, police, brutality, student, tazering

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Thread

Thread Starter

Forum

Replies

Last Post

Jesus Was a Leftist -- Just for You Vi Dankdude Politics 67 10-07-2009 12:28 PM
Police Growop101 Toke N Talk 53 05-10-2008 06:48 PM
HELP Me!! (POlice)=BAD Far_Beyond_Driven Toke N Talk 11 04-19-2008 07:04 AM
college student looking to grow 2-3 plants. Zzeuss Grow Room Design & Setup 10 09-15-2007 06:23 AM
growing w. lamps in student accomodation dave Indoor Growing 18 01-26-2007 12:20 AM

Posting Rules

You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Come Check out a new Poker Forum for the online poker community

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:17 AM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2