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Old 09-20-2007, 07:51 AM
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:55 AM
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I think the problem with increased police violence stems from the fact that they have "non-lethal" weapons. People are more willing to challenge the police because they know the police can't (in most taser cases) kill them by accident, unlike police that carry guns. The other problem is that because they have "non-lethal" weapons, the police are more willing to go to that solution, whereas cops with guns won't.

Then there are those few sick police who enjoy torturing people and now have the means and excuse to do so.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:01 AM
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the idea that this was a prank reminds me of something i once did as a teen. i had borrowed my dad's clean truck, a friend was with me, both clean at the time. i do believe we had a good buzz though. a cop happened to get behind us and i had the great idea to mess with him. we passed a marlboro back and forth, holding it just right, laughing, etc.. of course the blue lights came on, that's what i wanted. i slowed and stuck my hand out the window to wave the officer around, he didn't pass. i carried on for a quarter mile or so, telling my friend to look around and act like he was hiding stuff, waving the cop on, acting like i had no clue... finally i pulled over and boy did i give that guy a hard time, there's nothing like having 4 Aces! they called in K-9, brought in other officers - what a hoot! lucky for us they didn't have tazers.





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hate to add to the OT but something very similiar happened to me back in the day. I had a fake ID back then and was able to frequent bars. Well I go to a bar with a couple of friends of mine and don't drink a thing (this is Indiana where if your not 21 you can't get in) they stay I leave. 3 or 4 miles down the road I get pulled over, not speeding minding my business. Apparently the cop ran my plates because he "thought" he saw me leaving a bar and my name and age turned up to be 19 so he pulled me over in the hopes he could bust me. I get out and he gives me his line of shit, I know I saw you leaving the bar...etc...etc... Then he gives me a breathilizer test, I blow 0.0, no juice at all. The whole time I am denying the fact that he thought I was in a bar, then another cop pulls up. They ask me if they can search my car, I tell them go right ahead I don't have anything to hide. I had left a sack I had purchased earlier in the day at home so my car was clean. These cops were adamate about finding something on me. They didnt find shit, then started to try to get me to talk by saying they are going to take me in on probable cause I tell them do what you want this is a joke. Next thing I know they get a radio call jump in their cars and take off no apology no nothing.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:03 AM
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If you ask the wrong people questions that they dont wish to answer they will either belittle you,ignore you or in this case tazer you etc.
So in essence your freedom of speech act is bullshit.

I personally think that america has only an illusion of freedom and that you are not free at all in any kind of way to do anything except as you are told.
The three wise monkeys are in full effect in america as far as i can see
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:26 AM
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it's kind of amusing think that we're supposed to be worried about some nut jobs halfway around the world when really the terrorists are on our street and campuses and are supposedly trying to "protect" us. The problem is that even though every cop car and badge says "to serve and protect" in reality their job is to stop crime, which results in unnecessary harassment of innocent people, sometimes just over eager cops and sometimes to meet their quota.

Yes, there is a quota. Unofficial but very real. The reasoning goes like this: X amount crimes will be committed this month/year. They want to try and stop at least a certain percentage. Let's say 60%. To reach this goal every cop has to stop Y amount of crimes, which they tally as arrests. The reason this mentality persist is, if you don't meet your quota then you let crimes go unabated, which then means you haven't done your job.
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as far as dispersing people, i'd say yeah, go with the brass knuckles. cheap and highly effective, no need for special training or anything. if the cops need to move people it should be for a really good reason and they should do it with tools that encourage people to leave quickly. the non-lethal gimmicks like tazers are just a silly substitute for real law enforcement, they seem to encourage people to disregard the law more and take authority less seriously. maybe this is even causing or contributing to the trend of over-escalation on the part of officers???? if you had your choice of getting a couple good licks from a steel baton or a zap from some electronic gizmo standing between you and freedom, which would you prefer?
are you insane? you would rather cops physically beat you with brass knuckles? there is a reason why those things are illegal, man. tazors should be non-lethal force on DANGEROUS CRIMINALS, folks. not a college kid in a public forum.

VI, i don't care if the cops warned him first, a Tazor should not have been an option in a college auditorium. these asshole cops are fucking LOOKING for an excuse to use their new toys. when half a dozen cops are sitting on the guy, there is NO fucking need for a tazor. if you still think so, you have a misconstuded idea of what a peace officer is.

this is why police CANNOT be given liscensed to kill. don't give the cops that much power man, they will abuse it. power corrupts. and these cops are fucking nobodies with superior authority complexes and inferiority paycheck issues.

besides, what about common fucking sense, man?! politics is one of the most emotionally stiring subjects. it's expected someone might get a little heated in their questioning. but it's safe to say that it's not going to lead to violence, in any way. that kid was doing NO harm. this is police brutality because the cops resorted to violence instead of someone (even John Kerry!) trying to calm the situation down.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:30 PM
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are you insane? you would rather cops physically beat you with brass knuckles? there is a reason why those things are illegal, man. tazors should be non-lethal force on DANGEROUS CRIMINALS, folks. not a college kid in a public forum.
i think you missed my point. i would rather take a shock by the tazer than take a couple good licks with a baton. point is, so would the dangerous criminals. lets not give a dangerous criminal the option of getting a shock when the option of having a bullet in his leg (or a baton to the head) has worked so well for so long.

if the cops we have right now aren't capable of managing that level of responsibility (which most of them can not) they shouldn't be cops.






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Old 09-20-2007, 01:22 PM
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That was police brutality plain and simple.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:52 AM
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They were trying to get the guy under control so they could escort him out of the building. He was resisting, therefore the tazer. I'll watch the video again, I'm sure ... cuz its all over the news now. But again ... the guy was being totally obnoxious in a public forum. It wasn't the question he was asking, it was his attitude and resistance to the police command to move on. Like I said, before they had tazers, they had blackjacks and brass knuckles.

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Its Just ridiculous, these people are supposed to be trained in this sort of thing (Subduing) people who are out of order, so why does it take 6 cops to jump on, restrain and apprehend a person like this, its just Bravado wank, remember handcuffs, handcuff the fucker and drag him out.
We get your cop shows on our TV all the time and its funny watching Police chases where they are chasing one car and there will be at least Ten Cop cars in the pursuit, and when the vehicle is stopped and the offender is out of the car the surrounding police will literally push each other out of the way so they can point their gun at the offender, it takes me back to the day when Cowboys and Indians were all the rave on TV, the Cavalry would send 500 troops with Machine guns mounted on a Horse Drawn cart and all the finest horses and all the latest guns just to "Get Their man" only to be shown up by a bunch of rock throwing and arrow shooting natives.
Organize your selves you idiot coppers instead of being a Fuckin Hero, wank wank wank
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