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Old 11-02-2009, 02:44 PM
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Thanks, always looking for new sources of accurate information.

London, Medman, the problem with your assertion is that they're already putting tort reform into practice in TX and lo and behold, it's working.

You'll find that's true with most conservative ideas, while the libs can argue (poorly mind you) against them, when put into practice, they succeed. When Liberal policies are put into practice they fail miserably, require quadruple to 60 times their estimated costs and end up destroying jobs, segments of the economy and lives in the pursuit of their noble goals.
OK I would like to take you serious and to see if you have a valid point, but it seems like you just change your name so my first question is who are you and why did you have to change your name to agree on a post ...Not enough people posting to it ???? Some one use your old name ????? Trying to confuse stoners???? just curious
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:07 PM
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I've been reading the political forum for a while now and I just had to jump in. I don't feel qualified to make a firm judgement, however, after reading multiple posts, it appears Cloud City is a alias for another member just as Obama Santa (2) tried to jack Santas name and avatar and was really Libs R Scared who is most assuredly just another alias since they both just joined and jumped in like theyve been here all along. But like I said, I'm new here so what do I know.
so you did the same...hmmmm...Fail to see the logic
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Tell that to my GP and good friend who closed his practice last year due to excessive costs from malpractice liability insurance. Who do you think ends up paying for this insurance? Hmmmm, I wonder?
doctors should not be afraid of malpractice insurance premiums. if they think it's too much $$, it's easy to re-structure the practice in a way that the business operation keeps itself profitable, while providing the doctor with the kind of lifestyle he deserves. i suggest your friend meets with a consultant that specializes in medical practices, to weigh his options, closing and setting up shop somewhere else is silly....


it's also another reflection of one of the MANY problems with the health care industry in the USA.
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doctors should not be afraid of malpractice insurance premiums. if they think it's too much $$, it's easy to re-structure the practice in a way that the business operation keeps itself profitable, while providing the doctor with the kind of lifestyle he deserves. i suggest your friend meets with a consultant that specializes in medical practices, to weigh his options, closing and setting up shop somewhere else is silly....


it's also another reflection of one of the MANY problems with the health care industry in the USA.
I guess you are suggesting we that he turn away high risk patients? What does that sound like???

Here is part of an article that may articulate my point a little better:
“In response to rising medical malpractice insurance rates, many physicians feel compelled to practice so-called defensive medicine, which may involve ordering extensive patient tests primarily to help defend their decisions in case the physician is later sued,” says Kenneth E. Thorpe, the Robert W. Woodruff professor and chair of health policy and management at Emory’s Rollins School of Public Health. “Concern over malpractice insurance costs are also driving more specialists like obstetricians and gynecologists, and neurosurgeons to restrict, sell or close their practices, leading to some question about whether or not there will be enough specialists available to meet the demand for their services.”
When the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists released its 2009 Survey on Professional Liability in September, the feedback was sobering.
More than 63 percent of respondents reported making changes to their practice “due to the risk or fear of liability claims or litigation,” while 60 percent said liability insurance “is either unavailable or unaffordable.”
OB/GYNs continue to “decrease their number of high-risk obstetric patients and decrease gynecologic surgical procedures,” warns the survey. In fact, it adds, about eight percent of the survey respondents reported that they had stopped practicing obstetrics altogether.
“It is imperative that any changes to our current health system include meaningful federal medical liability reform," according to Albert L. Strunk, deputy executive vice president of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. "The current medical liability legal system is out of control as evidenced by the fact that over half of all liability claims against OB/GYNs are dropped or settled without payment on behalf of the OB/GYN."
Theoretically, malpractice suits can be a good idea, because they can affect physicians’ behavior in a positive way, according to Ray Hill, an assistant professor in the practice of finance at Emory's Goizueta Business School.
“The problem is that research indicates that doctors practicing good medicine are just as likely to lose malpractice suits as are careless doctors,” he adds. “The result is that all doctors are penalized by high med-mal rates. In some states, physicians in certain high-risk practices are either cutting down or eliminating their practice, or are simply leaving the state for more attractive locations.”

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http://knowledge.emory.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1278
Just my 2 cents, but I think these malpractice suits are a much larger problem than people realize. Calling a consultant is not always the answer especially when you can barely afford insurance. Restructing your practice to test someone to death or to decline high risk patients sounds like a problem that already exists.

And Yes, this is a large part of the problem of the current system, but aren't we all complaining about high health care costs? Let's start here before we put another program in the hands of the gov't who so often fail.
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you did not understand what I meant with restructuring.

i meant changing the way the BUSINESS aspect of the practice works. there's a lot of word-play in different laws of different states. he should look into how this word-play affects him/her, and see if establishing a different business model can benefit his/her case.
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So basically what you are saying is that instead of tort reform, which is working quite well in several states. Better in fact than they dreamed it would, his friend should go pay lawyers to show him how to "beat" the current system.

Sounds like a winner for the lawyers either way, they continue to make crazy money off of the backs of physicians from lawsuits AND they can charge exorbitant rates to the doctors just trying to survive another day. Yes, that sounds MUCH better than tort reform. I was under the impression you slobbering Obama worshipping dolts were actually in favor of IMPROVING health care. My mistake.
i was gonna keep civil, but since you have resorted to personal attacks my duty now will be to completely destroy you.

before you start connecting the dots in the inebriated fantasy you call your head, read well what I am saying.

that 'doctor' is nothing but a greedy piece of swine that is part of the reason this country is descending into a freefall. that doctor doesn't want to give up his lavish lifestyle, thus move elsewhere, because of the high insurance premiums. that's exactly the type of doctor, who cares most about his mercedez, not his patients, that make malpractice lawsuits necessary. you saying they have to survive another day makes them sound like a tribe in the congo basin, when in reality these people drink mimosas and enjoy seafood cocktails at 11am a couple of times a week...

as for the tort reform or what not, i am saying the system should be completely changed, ENTIRELY. period. no tort reform, we need a new system.

and for lawyers and doctors winning and what not, it is just a suggestion. will the poor doctor have to pay a CONSULTANT, yes, but it's all part of the game right now. if you forgot it takes work to make it, no matter if you're a janitor, astronaut, or a doctor, it takes work, and yes, you do have to know how to work the system to make it in this world buddy. if you don't know that, welcome to reality, time to lay off the weed my man.

when i was laid-off, along with 800 other employees 1 month after my first big purchase (a car), no bitching and moaning could help, i had to take that car, which I had put a 6,200 dollar down payment (basically all the money I saved during my last years in college) put it on the classified ads, and give away the account... the online posting was there for less than 20 mins and I had a guy who wanted the car. just gave it away cuz i couldn't pay it, it was either that or ruin my credit... guess what??? it's part of the game, it's called the REAL WORLD. WELCOME.
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i was gonna keep civil, but since you have resorted to personal attacks my duty now will be to completely destroy you.

before you start connecting the dots in the inebriated fantasy you call your head, read well what I am saying.

that 'doctor' is nothing but a greedy piece of swine that is part of the reason this country is descending into a freefall. that doctor doesn't want to give up his lavish lifestyle, thus move elsewhere, because of the high insurance premiums. that's exactly the type of doctor, who cares most about his mercedez, not his patients, that make malpractice lawsuits necessary. you saying they have to survive another day makes them sound like a tribe in the congo basin, when in reality these people drink mimosas and enjoy seafood cocktails at 11am a couple of times a week...

as for the tort reform or what not, i am saying the system should be completely changed, ENTIRELY. period. no tort reform, we need a new system.

and for lawyers and doctors winning and what not, it is just a suggestion. will the poor doctor have to pay a CONSULTANT, yes, but it's all part of the game right now. if you forgot it takes work to make it, no matter if you're a janitor, astronaut, or a doctor, it takes work, and yes, you do have to know how to work the system to make it in this world buddy. if you don't know that, welcome to reality, time to lay off the weed my man.

when i was laid-off, along with 800 other employees 1 month after my first big purchase (a car), no bitching and moaning could help, i had to take that car, which I had put a 6,200 dollar down payment (basically all the money I saved during my last years in college) put it on the classified ads, and give away the account... the online posting was there for less than 20 mins and I had a guy who wanted the car. just gave it away cuz i couldn't pay it, it was either that or ruin my credit... guess what??? it's part of the game, it's called the REAL WORLD. WELCOME.
This is the most unamerican thing I have ever heard of. That doctor went through at least 8 years of school and many large tuition bills. Did you do that? He earned that lifestyle. Comeon people this is a country founded on people making their own way. Most of us have lost jobs before, but when I did, I thrived. I made a better living than before. It all comes down to the individual and the drive they have to do well. Let's take accountability for ourselves. Please do not depend on the gov't to take accountability for you. That is just crazy.
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