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Old 10-31-2009, 07:43 AM
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Why are liberal tokers and conservative tokers getting in arguements? We should all just be working on the goal we all want accomplished. Hell, this is roll it up .org not pissandmoanaboutyourdifferences.org. We should come together and fight for a legal marijuana and a safer America. I understand lefties and righties don't agree on the aspects of politics or the president. Cone together and fight for a legal marijuana. Send the Obama administration well writen, well thought out essays about the perks of legalization. Alright u guys, get writing!
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:44 AM
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:04 AM
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Some members are not concerned with cannabis as an issue at all. I can think of one well established member who makes no secret of the fact that he is a non-user. Nor does he even make an attempt to hide his disdain for 'potheads' as he calls us.

But cannabis is not a Left/Right issue as neither side is serious about re-legalization at the federal level. Which would not be an issue if the federal government adhered to the 10th Amendment and left the re-legalization issue up to the states as it has finally done on the medical cannabis question. The Democrats got that one right.

Neither side is willing to relinquish control and the power that comes with Prohibition. Freedom for recreational cannabis users translates into less control for the powers that be. As such, the ultimate question is one of freedom and liberty. And that is worthy of discussion.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:58 AM
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Why are liberal tokers and conservative tokers getting in arguments?
believe it or not, there are more important things in this world than lighting up. the path a society takes and the ethos of a nation, the threats to freedoms we all seem to take for granted, the way we look at the world around us. these all effect the way we live. what do you think the chances are of ending this ridiculous prohibition when government decides it has the right to intrude into every facet of our lives and change the very meaning of the constitution? what point would there be to legalization if the state controlled every market and could decide what products were available through price regulation? those scenarios may seem far fetched, but these things are already happening all around us and there is a growing movement in the world that is taking us away from free markets and toward consolidated authoritarianism.

the technology now exists to form an effective centralized government with the capacity to quash most any form of meaningful dissent. inundated by irrelevancies that cloak a major shift in the very definition of freedom and indoctrinated into a culture of illusory entitlements, we can see that brave new world of sated indifference right around the corner and, quite frankly, it scares the living shit out of some of us. amid the feckless followers, the indolent idiots and the greedily gullible, there are those who refuse the paltry handouts and demand their rights as individuals. within this faction that strives to keep hold of individualism in the face of a growing trend toward group-think, there are some who feel it isn't enough to merely live the life of a free man. they want to expound on the virtues of personal responsibility in an attempt to sway those blind disciples of the nanny state or perhaps even burst their illusions and wake them up to their true state. sometimes it isn't enough to just talk the talk and walk the walk, sometimes you've gotta make some noise.

these are the arguments you find so irrelevant. as i said, there is more to life than just sparking up a number when you feel like it. that right, along with all our rights, is dependent on maintaining the liberty of everyone.
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people an the internet argue because theres no reason to have manners or compassion over the net. you can forge t that the jerk whos disagreeing with you has a whole different life full of different experiences and diserves as much respect as any other human

also people need to start following this rule; if you dont like what your reading, STOP READING IT, and you certainly dont have to feel obliged to respond
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In the 60s and 70s, all pot smokers shared the same political ideals and goals.
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i know right! untill recently id never heard of an angry pot head, but i guess they exist
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2 decades every one who smoked pot never had different opinions at all ever?
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2 decades every one who smoked pot never had different opinions at all ever?

Very very seldom.


It was like a social network then.
If you smoked pot then, to be cool, or "in"
You had to wear bell bottoms if you smoked pot.
You had to have long hair, you had to not shave,
you had to be oppsed to HARD Drugs like heroin,
you had to be a liberal, had to be opposed to the war, and be for equal and civl rights, and be a goverment hater.

In the late 70s, the bikers and rednecks and Nazi's and haters discovered smoking pot and it all changed.
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