I don't need facts when dealing with anything posted by CJ. Those of here who have had exchanges with him realize the facts don't make a bit of difference. I could post facts contrary to this opinion piece until I'm blue in the face, and CJ would simply respond by attacking me. He dislikes me because I constantly debunk his misinformation campaign and expose him for the liar he really is. In his eyes, this makes ME a liar.

See how it works? If I respond with facts, I am the one who is attacked. If I respond with attacks of my own, I'm still attacked in return, but the experience is more pleasurable for me because at least I got my attack in first.

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A government big enough to give you everything you want, makes Santa Claus pretty much obsolete.

NO!! Whenever Doob CAN'T UNDERSTAND an article.....

That tard thinks Sowell is part of IBD.

Not smart..... I'm shocked.

Just put "it" on ignore. Life will become so fine once you do.

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

You're the one who needs a clue.

When you consider Fox News as the source for "fair and balanced" news, everything else appears "liberal" by comparison, even when it isn't.

I'm not opposed to using IBD as a source because it's conservative. I'm opposed because IBD has repeatedly "reported" false information. This makes anything from IBD subject to a higher degree of scrutiny than something from a source that isn't reputed for its misrepresentation or blatant falsifying of the facts.

If you look at this "article", only a few paragraphs in there is a serious discrepency between what the writer asserts is true and what is actually true. The writer assumes that there are only 2 possible methods of payment for medical services. Paying the doctor directly, or paying through a government-administered insurance program. What about the private insurance companies who take 30% right off the top? How can you overlook 30% savings that could be derived from removing the private insurance middlemen? Apparently it's easy, when you completely disregard those middlemen when considering how medical costs are affected by payment systems.

A government administered health insurance plan WOULD save money. That's a fact. It would save money not by negotiating or setting payment rates, but by REMOVING THE MIDDLEMAN WHO TAKES 30% OF OUR PREMIUMS AND SPENDS IT ON ADVERTISING, ADMINISTRATION, AND EXECUTIVE COMPENSATION. That 30% would then be used to pay for actual medical services.

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I understand the article perfectly well, thanks for your concern. No, I don't think Thomas Sowell is "part of IBD", but I do question IBD's motive for publishing an article that doesn't consider ALL THE FACTS of the debate.

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A government big enough to give you everything you want, makes Santa Claus pretty much obsolete.

I see. So you would rather just start schoolyard arguments? CJ might disagree with you and even attack you but what about the other people who read these posts? Maybe they can learn something if you could just put up some facts to back up why you feel the way you do. We need to have a "Drama Lovers" forum on here. Maybe we could take all the attacks and name calling and put it in one place so it would be easier for people who are interested in starting pointless arguments to find.

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Where did I mention Fox News. I never said I watch fox? It's time to stop pointing at fox when this thread has nothing to do with FOX. I'm beginning to think that this is the only argument you ever bring to the table. It's laughable at how you assume I watch FOX. A gov't run health care program MIGHT (it's not proven) save money, but at what cost???? No one knows and if you look at history often times it costs more.

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I'll forgive you for your presumption, because you were probably writing this while I was addressing your question of WHY I disagree with this article. As with certain other "articles" published by IBD, this one does not address all the facts. Instead, it focuses on only the facts that appear to make the writer's opinion "true", while leaving out facts that might make the writer's opinion "false".

A government-run insurance option would reduce costs. The writer doesn't consider all the facts when making his determination that it would NOT reduce costs. Instead, he cherry-picks certain half-facts that support his theory in order to mislead readers into believing his OPINION piece is a factual report of the underlying issue behind the debate.

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Where did I say you mentioned Fox News? where did I say you watch fox news? where did I say this thread has anything to do with Fox News?

I didn't.

What I said was, when you consider Fox News as a source for "fair and balanced" news, everything else looks liberal by comparison. I chose Fox News over say, freerepublic.com, because Fox News is the most well-known outlet for GOP propaganda and the standard to which all other news organizations are measured when deciding whether they are "liberal" or "conservative".

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A government big enough to give you everything you want, makes Santa Claus pretty much obsolete.

Let's see some facts to counterpoint this article then.

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Notice all of the side tracking???

Notice how Doob probably never even read the article?

Notice how Doob doesn't actually address the article?

It's all deflection because Doob CAN'T address the issue, .. not enough brain powah... shuffle off thread troll.

The big boyz are talking.... go play outside.

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)