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Old 10-26-2009, 03:38 PM
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Default Liberals VS conservatives
Is there really that much difference? Maybe we should concentrate on our similarities.
First, we are both humanoid, upright standing hominans.
We speak a comon language, mostly, with a few exceptions.
We have access to the same media, news gathering info.
Our differences are basically internal interpretations of what we encounter and how we interact with others.
A disaster will bring people together, regardless of political affiliation.
A common enemy will unite us.
What is it about political Ideas that tend to drive us apart?
Basically, It is economics. Most people that are poor or lower class tend to be liberal. Those on the upper side of 50K per year, tend to be conservative. These are gross suppositions, but I would bet pretty factual when studied and proclaimed.
The real chasm between left and right (With the exception of the super rich liberals), is money.
Those that have it, Right, and those that don't, left.
The right is always cranky about the left wanting some of their (Hard earned) money.
The left is always trying to get some of the rights' money.
so the chasm is about economics.
We can close the chasm. Try and make suggestions how.
1.Kill the rich and steal all their money
2. The rich voluntarily commit to eliminating poverty by opening factories and providing well paying jobs to all that are willing to work.
3. kill all the poor people by starting wars in foriegn lands so the rich can get richer, wait, that is already being used.
There must be a better way, How about real socialism?
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:54 PM
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1.Kill the rich and steal all their money
2. The rich voluntarily commit to eliminating poverty by opening factories and providing well paying jobs to all that are willing to work
1 i thought libs were non violent people?
2 you cant possibly be this stupid, can you? i am gonna take my HARD EARNED money and risk it so you and your lib buddies can steal it if i make a profit? yes, good idea. what business model would you call #2? i got an idea, how about "pipedream". how about you quit punishing me for making money and i will spread around more of what i make the way i want to...you know....FREEDOM! if you dont make it profitable, i'll just sit on my dough to feed my own family thank you very much.
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Well I am a far right Conservative and I agree that we need to come together. Sadly many of my fellow conservatives are cheering for the demise of our great country just so they can selfishly act like children and say "i told you so" to the Liberals if President Obama fails. In fact, many Conservatives do secretly pray for another terror attack under President Obama's watch so he will appear incompetent. Sad but true. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Conservative.
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How about real socialism?
you mean that system where government defines what and how you may produce, sets the prices and wages you are allowed, and then steals what profit you may have left at gunpoint to feather their own nests? yeah, how about real socialism?
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Well I am a far right Conservative and I agree that we need to come together.
So you're a McModerate Repubican just left of Olympia Snow. No conservative are you; "we need to come together"....

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Sadly many of my fellow conservatives are cheering for the demise of our great country just so they can selfishly act like children and say "i told you so" to the Liberals if President Obama fails.
Obamas success will mean the demise of the Constitution. I hope he fails, too. (It was Limbaugh you were alluding to, wasn't it Mr. Specter?)



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In fact, many Conservatives do secretly pray for another terror attack under President Obama's watch so he will appear incompetent.
Do secretly pray? Did God let you in on their little secret? Or are you using the power of telepathy that all of us conservatives possess?

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Sad but true. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Conservative.
I'm ashamed that the conservative ideology has been so watered down so as to allow the likes of you a place in the movement. It's a sad day...you need to be purged. Or get a clue.
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What is it about political Ideas that tend to drive us apart?
It's called partisanship. Without it, we wouldn't need to hold elections, now would we? Just how your side wants it.

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Government itself can be broken down into three basic types.
1. The rich try to live at the expence of the poor.
2. The Poor try to live at the expence of the rich.
3. No-one tries to live at the expence of anyone.

You seem to think economics or money is a bad thing.
Its not, it represents time taken out of your life
spent on productive persuits.
Some people have more then others.
Those with money generaly invest it.
Thus providing more money to create more productive persuits.
Creating Jobs and wealth for others.

Taking money out of the economy in the form of taxes
harms the ability of the poor to amass wealth for themselves.
Thus creating a degenerating spiral of failure and dispair.
For all your altruism the best thing for the poor is jobs.
It is well known that jobs are created when government stays out of the way.

BTW Liberals/Progressives are not at all peaceful
they came up with spreading democracy through force and violence.
They Police the world as bad as the "Conservatives."
The problem with Liberals in general is they seem to have no idea how money works.
They just cling to Altruism and good deeds.
Even if the Good Deeds need to be enforced with a gun.

How about we stop pointing guns at eachother.
And stop trying to live at the expence of others.

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So you're a McModerate Repubican just left of Olympia Snow. No conservative are you; "we need to come together"....



Obamas success will mean the demise of the Constitution. I hope he fails, too. (It was Limbaugh you were alluding to, wasn't it Mr. Specter?)





Do secretly pray? Did God let you in on their little secret? Or are you using the power of telepathy that all of us conservatives possess?



I'm ashamed that the conservative ideology has been so watered down so as to allow the likes of you a place in the movement. It's a sad day...you need to be purged. Or get a clue.




No, you're incorrect. Many Conservatives have hoped and prayed for President Obama and America to fail. This has been in the news and I have also witnessed it myself in person. Now I am a far right Conservative and have been consistently voting Republican for over 30 years and I voted for McCain in the last election however I will stand behind President Obama as he is a good patriot who loves God and his Country. You sir, on the other hand, are a cad and a bounder. You're a disgrace to all right minded Conservatives.
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No, you're incorrect. Many Conservatives have hoped and prayed for President Obama and America to fail. This has been in the news and I have also witnessed it myself in person. Now I am a far right Conservative and have been consistently voting Republican for over 30 years and I voted for McCain in the last election however I will stand behind President Obama as he is a good patriot who loves God and his Country. You sir, on the other hand, are a cad and a bounder. You're a disgrace to all right minded Conservatives.
If Obama fails with his corrupt agenda, America will be handed her stay of execution. If Obama succeeds, it's off with your head; that is, if you are what you say you are.

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Is there really that much difference? Maybe we should concentrate on our similarities.
First, we are both humanoid, upright standing hominans.
We speak a comon language, mostly, with a few exceptions.
We have access to the same media, news gathering info.
Our differences are basically internal interpretations of what we encounter and how we interact with others.
A disaster will bring people together, regardless of political affiliation.
A common enemy will unite us.
What is it about political Ideas that tend to drive us apart?
Basically, It is economics. Most people that are poor or lower class tend to be liberal. Those on the upper side of 50K per year, tend to be conservative. These are gross suppositions, but I would bet pretty factual when studied and proclaimed.
The real chasm between left and right (With the exception of the super rich liberals), is money.
Those that have it, Right, and those that don't, left.
The right is always cranky about the left wanting some of their (Hard earned) money.
The left is always trying to get some of the rights' money.
so the chasm is about economics.
We can close the chasm. Try and make suggestions how.
1.Kill the rich and steal all their money
2. The rich voluntarily commit to eliminating poverty by opening factories and providing well paying jobs to all that are willing to work.
3. kill all the poor people by starting wars in foriegn lands so the rich can get richer, wait, that is already being used.
There must be a better way, How about real socialism?
Socialism?

There's nothing wrong with capitalism, except for the fact that people without values can still get filthy rich.

I think that there needs to be a salary cap for all people. People can get wealthy, but not so rich that the very rich individuals net worth can feed a million people for a whole year.
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