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Old 10-26-2009, 01:02 PM
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Default If you could start this country over....
I was thinking the other day if i could start America over....well not so much over but change the way our govt worked and interacted with us. i cam up with some things and well hope you enjoy..

i think we should live in what im calling a conservative libertarian state. Now what i mean by that is very small govt. The only things the gov should do for us is protect our boarders, maintain interstate highways (along with the states), regulate international trade, and thats it. the states should control EVERYTHING ELSE! i mean laws, taxes, health care, etc.
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thats funny....

because thats how our govt started
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:16 PM
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thats funny....

because thats how our govt started

i know thats why i like it but thats what happens when history isnt taught well in school people forget why this country was founded and the principles this country was founded upon and when i look around and see all this control it makes me sick....i bet George Washington, and Tom Jefferson are rolling over in their graves right now
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All we have to do is adhere to the Constitution.
The single greatest blueprint for government ever devised by man.....and it is being shredded as we speak.
For shame.
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i know thats why i like it but thats what happens when history isnt taught well in school people forget why this country was founded and the principles this country was founded upon and when i look around and see all this control it makes me sick....i bet George Washington, and Tom Jefferson are rolling over in their graves right now
No it is taught that way, US was a confederation and it didnt work, so thats why we have a federal system now.
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Let's try to fix it before it gets to the point where we need to start it over.
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But the power (which they don't TEACH) remains with the States- individually.
That's why some 30 + States have reissued their letters of soveringty (I hate trying to spell that word. I always get it wrong. Anyhow.)
Our Constitution must be enforced by the people and the courts. When the courts refuse to abide by their oths of office- our people, and country, suffer.

Our inability to seek and recieve 'redress of grivences' is a major reson why we're in the mess we're in.

The US Sup CT ruled a few years back that 'the people have the right to petition the gov for redress- but the gov does NOT have to respond.'

Talk about 'butt ugly stupid'?!!

So, unti we can hold our public SERVANTS accountable- we are screwed.

Our Consitution is the best ever but... it's OUR duty to enforce it.
So, when the courts hinder our enforcement endevours- we begin thinking about a new government.
We don't need a new one. We just need to hang a few past and present public servants.
A bunch of Bankers too !
And even some corporate exc. including media exc.
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im not saying we need a new govt i was asking if you could change the way our govt is now would you and what would you do......but we really need to start holding our public servants accountable. get rid of those jack-ass lobbyists who are really running the country and give it back to the people. When this country was founded it was founded "By the people for the people" i ask you what would that saying be now.....by the money for the money.....by the corporation screw everyone else? we need to stop the people in office from receiving bribes (a legal bribe is still a bribe)
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we definitly need a better accountability system.. seems like today the only thing we have is mass media when one gets caught doing shady things

we need a performance review, like employers use to determine whether or not someone deserves a raise.
and speaking of raises... congress should not be allowed to vote for its own raises WTF???? if my fellow coworkers had that ability we would vote ourselfes a raise every 3 months!
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Well said. We just have to have courts that HELP the people enforce the right of the people and not play servant to the over paid public servant.
They are basicallt Political/cash register courts at this moment.
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Keep up the posts.
Others will be able to shed light on the subject.
(It will always come back to the courts though)
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