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Old 10-26-2009, 12:44 PM
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I see what you're saying but I don't think it's a simple matter of just raising taxes to pay for healthcare. If we keep giving more control to government we may simply wake up one day and say "What happened to our freedom". If we keep giving more responsibility to an incompitent government I think the result is a pretty predictable one.
believe me i am the last person who wants more government control. but i have been looking at this as kind of a parent child relationship. the govt is the parent and we the people are the children.

the govt gave us a chance to run health care the way we saw fit. well that didnt work out well because the people running the providers dont care about helping the American public they only care about the profits. thats when the govt (parent) comes in and says well we gave you a chance but you fucked it all up. so were fixing it. weather or not their way is right or wrong were going to be stuck with it. because what the parent says goes.
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.....i have been looking at this as kind of a parent child relationship. the govt is the parent and we the people are the children.
fer crissakes grow up, government isn't your mommy. there are plenty of ladies down town that will spank you for being a bad little boy and they won't charge half as much as obama and his ilk are going to be taking out of your hide.
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fer crissakes grow up, government isn't your mommy. there are plenty of ladies down town that will spank you for being a bad little boy and they won't charge half as much as obama and his ilk are going to be taking out of your hide.

well you tell me another way to look at it, we fuck up and the govt will come and save us....where else has this happened.... OH YA BANKS AND CARS. both of them fucked up and who came to save them....mommy government.

Now the health care system isnt really messed up its the people who are running it, those are the ones who are messed up. im trying to make a point with this part here but im going to have to come back when im done puffin because right now i dont care lol
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well you tell me another way to look at it, we fuck up and the govt will come and save us....where else has this happened.... OH YA BANKS AND CARS. both of them fucked up and who came to save them....mommy government.

Now the health care system isnt really messed up its the people who are running it, those are the ones who are messed up. im trying to make a point with this part here but im going to have to come back when im done puffin because right now i dont care lol
Is that really the role government should be playing though? I think it's been like this for too long now. Nothing the government has taken over is working well right now, and hasn't for a while. When people of a society hand over their freedoms in exchange for something the results are pretty predictable. Too much control=Too much power. Not a good thing.
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If you like the compassion of the IRS, the efficiency of the Post Office, and the great way the Medicaid-Medicare performs, you will love Government Health care plan.
It's no more complicated than that. Well said and excellent points.
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We, the people, were not sreaming for Health care. Nope. THEY have been trying to get this 'thing' through since, what, 94 or so. Maybe longer.
But- the fact i health care costs are high due to the courts/lack of tort reform and BS lawssuits which inturn increases costs.
Keep Uncle Scam out of it and many other things and we, the people will be better off.
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We, the people, were not sreaming for Health care. Nope. THEY have been trying to get this 'thing' through since, what, 94 or so. Maybe longer.
But- the fact i health care costs are high due to the courts/lack of tort reform and BS lawssuits which inturn increases costs.
Keep Uncle Scam out of it and many other things and we, the people will be better off.
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So true, so true. Why then are so many people convinced that the government is gonna come to the rescue and everything with healthcare will be fixed? I just don't understand it.
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The government is the worst person to have running anything. Put it back in private hands free market will decide the prices. The insurance companies are as much to blame as the government. It costs me 2 dollars for 50 bandaids but it costs INS 652 dollars for 1. WTF I'm a libertarian voter I feel we have the best plans. Check out our issues you'll feel the same.
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They are Government educated (raised) sheep. And the media is the biggest Public relations rep for Uncle Scam and Company.
(No wonder they're pissed at Fox News. Outside of Lou Dobbs on CNN, Foxs presents what you will not likely hear on other nets.
Don't get me wrong- Fox is also a PR office for the above listed pusilanomus freaks. Atleast they do - what they do- somewhat grudgingly.
Better than nothing but not what it could be.
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