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Old 10-22-2009, 03:16 PM
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This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level
determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its
valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet -- which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration -- and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:28 PM
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Nice sarcasm, but the right ignores these facts, Quite frankly, I can't even see their point of view as anything but selfishness, meanness, and anti-social. If I wanted what they had bad enough, I'd strap on my bullet proof vest, a couple of handguns, take my AK47 and stroll through their neighborhoods, taking what I wanted at random, I'd take along a couple a friends to watch my back. Although this is a fictional scenario, I wouldn't rule it out in the future, not by me, but by many that have waited too long for social justice.
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This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level
determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its
valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet -- which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration -- and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
There is unquestionably a need for many Government oversights and some do a fairly good job. But the question is not whether or not Government can do certain things but how efficiently the can do it. Take your example of the USPS. This is an awful organization that is horribly run. Both UPS and FedEx do a much better job and show a profit as opposed to the USPS which does a relatively poor job and loses money.

People on the Left like to make poor comparisons using examples like Medicare and the care we give to our Military. But these organizations only insure a handful of people with all workers paying in. If we try to insure everyone, with only part of our population working, you have a much different dynamic.

Bottom line, if you want your health care being run like the USPS or the DMV you want socialized medicine. You like going to the DMV when you are sick?
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Nice sarcasm, but the right ignores these facts, Quite frankly, I can't even see their point of view as anything but selfishness, meanness, and anti-social. If I wanted what they had bad enough, I'd strap on my bullet proof vest, a couple of handguns, take my AK47 and stroll through their neighborhoods, taking what I wanted at random, I'd take along a couple a friends to watch my back. Although this is a fictional scenario, I wouldn't rule it out in the future, not by me, but by many that have waited too long for social justice.
In that case you better thank the Right for protecting your 2nd amendment right to bear arms.

Although it might not be smart to post your criminal musings on a public forum.
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There is unquestionably a need for many Government oversights and some do a fairly good job. But the question is not whether or not Government can do certain things but how efficiently the can do it. Take your example of the USPS. This is an awful organization that is horribly run. Both UPS and FedEx do a much better job and show a profit as opposed to the USPS which does a relatively poor job and loses money.

People on the Left like to make poor comparisons using examples like Medicare and the care we give to our Military. But these organizations only insure a handful of people with all workers paying in. If we try to insure everyone, with only part of our population working, you have a much different dynamic.

Bottom line, if you want your health care being run like the USPS or the DMV you want socialized medicine. You like going to the DMV when you are sick?
Say, don't you have one of those cadillac medical plans, you sure act like it. So why don't you let ther rest of the people have at least some medical plan, even if it doesn't meet your standards?
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This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level
determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its
valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet -- which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration -- and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
:et's take 1 point at a time:

Public utilities aren't run by the federal government, and they also don't make alarm clocks. Thank God! or none of us would wake up on time
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In that case you better thank the Right for protecting your 2nd amendment right to bear arms.

Although it might not be smart to post your criminal musings on a public forum.
As a member of the NRA, I believe I've been active in protecting my own gun rights. Not all of us on the left are going to lay down, I'm certainly not, and I know a few more in my neighborhood that own and will use their guns when the right time arrives. This event, (class warfare) will probably not occur in my lifetime, but as I've said before, when the food runs out, anything could happen. I'm pretty sure they will be coming for your stash. I mean, like the guy said when asked, "why do you rob banks"? "Well" he said, "thats where they keep the monry".
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I woke up this morning, took a shit in my unapproved unregulated perfectly fucking safe outhouse, made coffee from rainwater I collected off the roof of the house I built without any stupid fucking permits or asshole bureaucrats to get in the way.

Made breakfast from eggs from my free range chickens and some dried berries I'd saved. When I finished I whistled to my unregistered dog and hopped in my beater truck, which I PAID FOR and didn't ask others to subsidize via idiotic thieving programs like cash for clunkers.

Drove down a private road I maintain to the public way. I grabbed a newspaper at the local country store, sat on the front porch and read the paper in between sipping my coffee and hating the government with the local crew. A perfectly happy day for me.

Other than the bit of public road, which I've fixed many a time on my own and pay dearly for thru property taxes I don't have much use for many government programs. Yet SOME of you insist I pay for them. Make you a deal, I know you don't use my outhouse, or pay for it but like alot of opinions on this forums it's full of shit. What say YOU come shovel out my outhouse ? That'd be fair right?
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This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level
determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its
valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet -- which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration -- and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
You didn't have to mention this. It was presumed from sentence one.

And at least your public school English teacher taught you a thing or two about hyperbole.
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:et's take 1 point at a time:

Public utilities aren't run by the federal government, and they also don't make alarm clocks. Thank God! or none of us would wake up on time

that's all you've got? Weak.

Especially considering the original post NEVER said public utilities were RUN by the federal government.

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He also never said the government makes alarm clocks. He said:

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my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.
take it one point at a time, eh? Then you provide exactly ZERO valid points?

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