Click on this link to watch the video of a politician telling the truth for once.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/10/15/harry_reid_suggests_health_care_to_cost_2_trillion .html

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What that $54 Billion is a "very small percent" of $2 trillion.
I don't think this means what you think it means.

1. health savings accounts
2. high deductable major medical insurance
3. Tax credits for Pro-Bono work.

Prices will drop drasticly.
HMO's and government care are failed experiments.
Bring the market back into medicine.

Wow.
Harry was drunk!

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How can you compare private HMOs to medicare? Medicare works very well while HMOs rape the people and deny services. Most of the faults with medicare are the asshole clinics and doctors over-billing, double and triple billing, billing for services not rendered, etc. and in general trying to rip off the government. That's where all the excess expenses are going, to crooked dr.s and medical facilities.

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No ... the truth told by Harry Reid in the video is that he admitted the proposed health care will cost TWO TRILLION and not the 987 billion as promised.

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The CBO has already come out and said the true cost of the plan as it stands (which EVERYONE knows it will become worse) will end up at around 3 trillion. But, you dreamers that actually believe (and you know you don't, you just don't care) it will be less than 1 trillion, keep flapping your gums. I do find it strange that no lawyers organizations have spoken out against the bill, oh yeah, that's because there is NOTHING in it regarding tort reform. You know, the single largest factor in health care costs according to the doctors, but hey, what would THEY know about medical costs.

Why do people think that because medicare works, universal healthcare will work?

Medicare taxes a large goup to pay for the treatment of a small group. Universal healthcare will tax a small goup to pay for the care of a larger group.

One works (barely) and the other simply can not. We are not Cuba with a few million homogenous people. We are over 300 million from vastly different income levels.

Even Obama disagrees with you....

Peter Orszag, Obama’s director of the OMB, pinned blame for the deficits on Medicare and Medicaid, calling them “the key driver of our long-term deficits.” Orszag called for “serious steps to put our nation back on a sustainable fiscal path.” The OMB also noted that Obama “is committed to addressing the shortfall in Social Security system.”


sounds like a great govt. program!!!

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I compare them MED because they are both government creations.
They both destroy the market and force costs up.

Medicare works because it rapes the people to pay for a privledged few.
See I can do it to.

So all we need to do is tell the doctors what they can earn.
Were they can live, what buisness model they use.
Tell investers to stop expecting a return and all our problems will be over?

The reason Medicare works is because its a Ponzi scheme. All Ponzi schemes come to an end eventually.

Post office is broke.

Medicare is broke.

MediCaid is broke.

The entire federal government is broke and now relying on the printing press. The bill is being handed to several future generations down the road.

Oh, Hell yeah, let's turn over our entire medical system to congress to run.

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