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Old 10-03-2009, 11:44 AM
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Let's erase all party lines for just a moment, and focus on one very important issue that I think we can probably all agree on.

Our government has too much power.

Let's stop pointing fingers at one another and trying to pin the blame on red or blue. We can all agree that somewhere along the way, "we the people" have lost control of our country.

I think we've allowed ourselves to become so divided over rather trivial issues that we've lost sight of what it is that was supposed to make this country great - the power of the people, right?
"United we stand, Divided we fall" is a phrase that has been used in mottos, from nations and states to songs. The basic concept is that unless the people are united, it is easy to destroy them.

This is a counter to the maxim divide and rule.

"Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all,
By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall;
No tyrannous acts shall suppress your just claim,
Or stain with dishonor America's name."

-John Dickinson's "The Liberty Song", 1768.

"United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.” - Patrick Henry, 1799.

George Washington warned against political parties in his farewell address;

"All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests. However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion."

Are we so divided that we couldn't unite under the common cause of restoring the foundation of liberty on which our nation was built? Can't we put aside the partisan politics and realize that we are all in this together?

We've been bamboozled by the "cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men" that our very first President of the United States warned us about, while pointing our fingers at other helpless groups of citizens and saying they're to blame.

Aren't we all to blame, for allowing ourselves to be bamboozled? Isn't it time to stop playing the blame game and start picking up the pieces, together?

Is anybody with me on this?
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:56 AM
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yes i do agree.,.,if you think about it.,.,government in itself is divided .,.,everything divided must fall.,.,systems were made to rule,.,in this country theres no people power.,.,and the people are seperated rep/dem.,.,state/fed.,.,texas arizona.,.,theres no unity.,.theres no peace .,.,theres no love.,.,only greed vanity hate and lust.,.,.if no changes are made we shall burn as rome did.,.,everyday the bucket goes to the well.,.,one day tha bottom a drop rite out.,.,
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:42 PM
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i would say that the power comes and goes. like I think that the gov. run healthcare would be fine, but I also think that a bunch of people need to go back and read the constatution so we can keep what rights we have left. Free speech is gone. for the most part anyway
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We ARE coming together. Its a common mistake to believe that the TEA parties are made up of only Republicans. There are Americans from all political parties in attendance with one common purpose ... to get the federal government back into the chains of the Constitution.
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Aren't we all to blame, for allowing ourselves to be bamboozled? Isn't it time to stop playing the blame game and start picking up the pieces, together?
Is anybody with me on this?
Yes the fault is our inability to vote the scoundrels out who ignore our best interests. Republicans should ask the tough questions to Republicans. Democrats should ask the tough questions to Democrats.
It is time for the Middle Class to come together and make its voice heard. It should be a class struggle, not a party struggle.
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the american political system is a joke.... and im an american!

i think this country has become almost everything it was opposed to on the day of its creation.
when was the last time you felt your views were represented by an elected official at the federal level?
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