Med ...

Personally, I think (not feel) that BOTH parties are corrupt as hell. BUT, the Democrats are not only corrupt like the Republicans, but the Democrats would lead us back into the Dark Ages. Well, at least back to the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. *lol*

Vi

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What makes you think that? Are you afraid of more unionization of the work force. Do you realize that it was the unions that made it possible for the working man to attain middle class. Maybe you should study some history of how it was in this country before the workers had a voice! Child labor, 80+ hour work weeks, no protection from the ravages of chemicals and dangerous substances at work, no benefits like vacations, healthcare, retirement plans etc..Is that what you're proposing the Democrats want to do. I'd say the exact opposite is true. If anything, that would be a goal of your precious plutocratic idealogs. Just the facts ma'am!

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And the state of General Motors and Ford is what?

Vi

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They have been sandbagged by (as you have stated the ridiculous price of medical insurance) and the onslaught of foriegn cars, while management has had no plan to compete with the gas miserly minis and waited till the price of gas hit 3.00 to institute change. But don't worry, they have a plan to get rid of all the good union jobs and either sub them out to foriegn countries or to non-union scab shops. Another blow to working Americans brought on by selfish stupid management! I'll bet the CEOs arent taking any cuts, and it's their fault they're in the fix they're in!

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Ah-Ha ... I see. So, unreasonable union demands made over generations have not had a detrimental effect on the auto manufacturers at all, eh? I think I'm catching on now, Med. *lol*

Vi

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American cars are shit.
Americans need to take some lessons from the Japs and Germans and make better cars. Then maybe american car companies will do better.

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Un-reasonable demands, like a living wage, health insurance, retirement, yeah I guess an old management failure like you would think that. Geeze how un-reasonable can you get to want a decent living? I guess it's only management that deserves that eh! Why not do it like the Romans, with slaves and slavemasters with bullwhips, but even then you'd bitch about feeding them, "they're eating way too much, cut back"

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And again ... what is the state of General Motors and Ford?

Vi

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I Don't care! If their management had been more interested in quality and gas mileage than in their salarys, maybe they would be in the black. Whats the state of the Airlines, same reason!!

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Of COURSE you don't care, Med. "We don't care" is the general attitude of union members and their leaders. They could give a shit less if their demands drive employers out of business. Just like those with socialistic demands upon the rest of the society ... socialists could give a shit less if they kill the Golden Goose that provides us with the great living standard we enjoy. Its all about "gimme mine," right?

Vi

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