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Old 09-05-2007, 10:55 AM
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Well, your probably right. I made 20.00 an hr. at my union job. I know plenty of truckers that made more, owner-operators, and plenty of drivers that made less. 20.00 an hour is about subsistence level pay. without my wifes income, we would have been poor indeed. I don't know how minimum wage workers do it. I never made less than 20.00 an hr. since the 70s, problem is, I never made more either, so were living on 70s wages in 2007 prices, even 2 incomes is not enough to live comfortably.
About 50% of what you earn is eaten up in taxes. So ... what is causing you to need a double income, Med?

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:42 PM
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About 50% of what you earn is eaten up in taxes. So ... what is causing you to need a double income, Med?

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The problem is: business owners need to pay more to their employees instead of giving it to the Feds, just like Chris's boss does. Why were my wages the same in 2004 as in 1975? 30 fricken years and wages never went up, did costs go up?
With the greedy company owners trying to amass huge wealth instead of taking the lions share and sharing with their employees, the workers are put on peasant wages.
Since you are so far right you are even right of John Birch, this concept looks like communism to you. You are the type of person that doesn't know how to share, never shared your toys, never shared your girlfriends, never shared your money, thats for sure.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:06 PM
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Nothing good will come of letting Mexican't truck drivers into our country...
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:28 PM
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The problem is: business owners need to pay more to their employees instead of giving it to the Feds, just like Chris's boss does. Why were my wages the same in 2004 as in 1975? 30 fricken years and wages never went up, did costs go up?
With the greedy company owners trying to amass huge wealth instead of taking the lions share and sharing with their employees, the workers are put on peasant wages.
Since you are so far right you are even right of John Birch, this concept looks like communism to you. You are the type of person that doesn't know how to share, never shared your toys, never shared your girlfriends, never shared your money, thats for sure.
Learn how to share VI, it will make you a better person.
Did you ever consider starting your own company, offering "fair" wages, and then recruiting the best of the workers from the competition? Surely if the competition were paying unfair wages, their best employees would jump at the chance to work for you, Med.

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Old 09-06-2007, 12:37 AM
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Did you ever consider starting your own company, offering "fair" wages, and then recruiting the best of the workers from the competition? Surely if the competition were paying unfair wages, their best employees would jump at the chance to work for you, Med.

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There you go with the old head up the ass thing again. I already posted that when I was in business I paid well above the going rate and had very loyal employees. I could never figure out why the other guys wouldn't do it. I had guys from gas stations miles away putting in apps. Most of the station owners I knew, were selfish jerks, with super egos and asshole written all over them, Kind of how I envision you, VI. And I wouldn't steal from the competrition, I trained them myself, that way I got what I wanted and needed.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:50 AM
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One question for all, why do we tollerate canadian truckers who have been hauling in the US for years, but mexican trucker is a nono, seems like a double standard to me...
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mexicans already smuggle dozens of illegals through in a suitcase, why let them pull in with a 52 foot trailer?

Canada respects our borders, mexico does not.






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Old 09-06-2007, 08:35 AM
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Wow makin $20 in the 70's you should have a good stock pile of money considering average minimum wage then was what $3.00 and prices for everything were very low.I worked my way from $4.25 to my current $20 an hour wage and it only took what 18 years.So Id put you in an upper class bracket medicine since you had such high pay for so long.Yeah and damn Clinton for signing NAFTA into effect that cock sucker screwed us good.I say turn the border militia loose on them and give them the right to shoot on sight.Now if we could just get that fence and acroc moat dug we might have something going. Its to late in Chicago areas as when you walk into wal mart or Target the signs and commercials on the PA are in spainish.My favorite is when illegals get arrested and then say thier rights are being violated and they were profiled.Well yeah you don't have rights as an illegal alien and yeah you were profiled as your an illegal..enjoy the bus trip home see ya back in the US in a week.I wouldnt mind canadians sneakin in as long as they bring some BC buds and when I get real high keep saying about like its spelled a boot lol canadians are North Americas teddy bears so cute and harmless gotta luv them...
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:14 AM
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Wow makin $20 in the 70's you should have a good stock pile of money considering average minimum wage then was what $3.00 and prices for everything were very low.I worked my way from $4.25 to my current $20 an hour wage and it only took what 18 years.So Id put you in an upper class bracket medicine since you had such high pay for so long.Yeah and damn Clinton for signing NAFTA into effect that cock sucker screwed us good.I say turn the border militia loose on them and give them the right to shoot on sight.Now if we could just get that fence and acroc moat dug we might have something going. Its to late in Chicago areas as when you walk into wal mart or Target the signs and commercials on the PA are in spainish.My favorite is when illegals get arrested and then say thier rights are being violated and they were profiled.Well yeah you don't have rights as an illegal alien and yeah you were profiled as your an illegal..enjoy the bus trip home see ya back in the US in a week.I wouldnt mind canadians sneakin in as long as they bring some BC buds and when I get real high keep saying about like its spelled a boot lol canadians are North Americas teddy bears so cute and harmless gotta luv them...
Actually filthy, I made 17.70 an hour in 1976 as a lead carpenter, you know, the one that runs the job., that's only a dollar over scale, and yes, I lived quite well in the 70s, not extravagent, but adequate. Trouble is: The mexicans started moving in on construction jobs, so I bought a gas station franchise and also lived quite well. I've generally considered my pay structure as lower middle class, never quite rising to the priveledge arena, and as a gas station owner, I had to work as a mechanic to pay the bills, as the fuel barely paid the overhead. The beauty of that was, I got to keep 100% of the labor, After taxes. When you're in business, you send the government a check quarterly for taxes, Man that really hurt, like you had to cut a check for 3-5 grand, ouch.
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One question for all, why do we tollerate canadian truckers who have been hauling in the US for years, but mexican trucker is a nono, seems like a double standard to me...
Because of a few reasons:

1.) Canadian safety standards for vehicles and drivers is pretty much on par with the U.S., while Mexican drivers and their vehicles are both suspect at best , completely unsafe at worst.

2.) Canadians are not breaking into our country by the millions ( yes , millions ).We do not have to worry so much about letting Canadian trucks arcoss the border unchecked as we do Mexican. Canadas economy is much better than Mexico which equals less desperation.

3.) Although Canada dose import a fair amount of pot to the U.S., it is much less violent than the cocaine / heroin action comming from Mexico, and the trucks in question may be used to direct-drop product all around the country.
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