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medicineman · #11 08-31-2007, 01:31 PM

I agree that we need a functioning government that is responsible to the people not the corporations. That being said, it is up to us to change the players. We must first off, make all national elections publicly funded. Then we must abolish the lobby conglomerate, I know, easier said then done. We must find people that serve in washington that are willing to serve the people, like Mr. Smith goes to Washington. We must set term limits on congressional seats and make it possible for a commoner to run for office, like a carpenter, a teacher, a truckdriver Etc. Bring back constitutional government by the people.

ViRedd · #12 08-31-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by medicineman

I agree that we need a functioning government that is responsible to the people not the corporations. That being said, it is up to us to change the players. We must first off, make all national elections publicly funded. Then we must abolish the lobby conglomerate, I know, easier said then done. We must find people that serve in washington that are willing to serve the people, like Mr. Smith goes to Washington. We must set term limits on congressional seats and make it possible for a commoner to run for office, like a carpenter, a teacher, a truckdriver Etc. Bring back constitutional government by the people.

~lol~ ... this must be a friggin' joke, Med. In almost every post you make, you espouse UNCONSTITUTIONAL interference by the federal government. Do I have to point out to you that if we "brought back" constitutional government, the socialized, "single payer" medical plan that you've been salivating all over the forum about, would never come to fruitition?

Vi

medicineman · #13 08-31-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

~lol~ ... this must be a friggin' joke, Med. In almost every post you make, you espouse UNCONSTITUTIONAL interference by the federal government. Do I have to point out to you that if we "brought back" constitutional government, the socialized, "single payer" medical plan that you've been salivating all over the forum about, would never come to fruitition?

Vi

Come on Vi, I'm sure we could fit that in under provide for the general welfare, or was it promote, which in essence is the same thing, so, I believe Medical care for all, Single payer national health care, would fall under promoting the general "well"fare, eh? I mean the word WELL is the first part of welfare, IE those that are well fare better than those that are not, Am I right, You are so corrupt,~LOL~.

ViRedd · #14 09-01-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by medicineman

Come on Vi, I'm sure we could fit that in under provide for the general welfare, or was it promote, which in essence is the same thing, so, I believe Medical care for all, Single payer national health care, would fall under promoting the general "well"fare, eh? I mean the word WELL is the first part of welfare, IE those that are well fare better than those that are not, Am I right, You are so corrupt,~LOL~.

Ahhh, fuck. What a total spinner you are. ~lol~

If provide and promote are the same words, why are they spelled differently? Why did the Founders choose to use two completely different words if they mean the same thing?

Sorry Med ... but if we get back to where the federal government is once again chained by the Constitution, your single payer (socalized) medical plan is doomed to failure.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913 + 182

ARTFL > Webster's Dictionary > Searching for promote:

Promote (Page: 1147)

Pro*mote" (?), v. t. [imp. & p. p. Promoted; p. pr. & vb. n. Promoting.] [L. promotus, p. p. of promovere to move forward, to promote; pro forward + movere to move. See Move.]
1. To contribute to the growth, enlargement, or prosperity of (any process or thing that is in course); to forward; to further; to encourage; to advance; to excite; as, to promote learning; to promote disorder; to promote a business venture. Born to promote</I> all truth." Milton.</I>

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913 + 182

ARTFL > Webster's Dictionary > Searching for provide:
Displaying 1 result(s) from the 1828 edition:

PROVI''DE, v.t. [L. provideo,literally to see before; pro and video, to see.]
1. To procure beforehand; to get, collect or make ready for future use; to prepare.
Abraham said, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt-offering. Gen.22.
Provide neither gold nor silver nor brass in your purses. Matt.10.
Provide things honest in the sight of all men. Rom.12.
2. To furnish; to supply; followed by with.
Rome, by the care of the magistrates, was well provided with corn. Provided of is now obsolete.

3. To stipulate previously. The agreement provides that the party shall incur no loss.
4. To make a previous conditional stipulation. [See Provided.]
5. To foresee; a Latinism. [Not in use.]
6. Provide, in a transitive sense, is followed by against or for. We provide warm clothing against the inclemencies of the weather; we provide necessaries against a time of need; or we provide warm clothing for winter, &c.
PROVI''DE, v.i. To procure supplies or means of defense; or to take measures for counteracting or escaping an evil. The sagacity of brutes in providing against the inclemencies of the weather is wonderful.

Vi

medicineman · #15 09-01-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

Ahhh, fuck. What a total spinner you are. ~lol~

If provide and promote are the same words, why are they spelled differently? Why did the Founders choose to use two completely different words if they mean the same thing?

Sorry Med ... but if we get back to where the federal government is once again chained by the Constitution, your single payer (socalized) medical plan is doomed to failure.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913 + 182

ARTFL > Webster's Dictionary > Searching for promote:

Promote (Page: 1147)

Pro*mote" (?), v. t. [imp. & p. p. Promoted; p. pr. & vb. n. Promoting.] [L. promotus, p. p. of promovere to move forward, to promote; pro forward + movere to move. See Move.]
1. To contribute to the growth, enlargement, or prosperity of (any process or thing that is in course); to forward; to further; to encourage; to advance; to excite; as, to promote learning; to promote disorder; to promote a business venture. Born to promote</I> all truth." Milton.</I>

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913 + 182

ARTFL > Webster's Dictionary > Searching for provide:
Displaying 1 result(s) from the 1828 edition:

PROVI''DE, v.t. [L. provideo,literally to see before; pro and video, to see.]
1. To procure beforehand; to get, collect or make ready for future use; to prepare.
Abraham said, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt-offering. Gen.22.
Provide neither gold nor silver nor brass in your purses. Matt.10.
Provide things honest in the sight of all men. Rom.12.
2. To furnish; to supply; followed by with.
Rome, by the care of the magistrates, was well provided with corn. Provided of is now obsolete.

3. To stipulate previously. The agreement provides that the party shall incur no loss.
4. To make a previous conditional stipulation. [See Provided.]
5. To foresee; a Latinism. [Not in use.]
6. Provide, in a transitive sense, is followed by against or for. We provide warm clothing against the inclemencies of the weather; we provide necessaries against a time of need; or we provide warm clothing for winter, &c.
PROVI''DE, v.i. To procure supplies or means of defense; or to take measures for counteracting or escaping an evil. The sagacity of brutes in providing against the inclemencies of the weather is wonderful.

So this is a "My dictionary is better than your dictionary" fight eh? well, wel is the first part of welfare and we all know that a well society is better than a sick one, don't we? In actuality, if everyone had free medical (single payer), the loss of productivity from minor sickness would be reduced drastically, the crooks in the Insurance and HMO industry would be driven to the wall, And this country could work on some more important stuff, like giving me a raise,~LOL~.
Vi

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