I couldn't imagine living in a country that does not offer health care and education to everyone. In Canada it is our right to have medical care. At the expense of us tax payers of course. It is called the Ontario Health Insurance Plan OHIP. All we have is a Health card we show at the doctors, specialist, hospital stays, sugeries etc. It is all paid for. They don't pay for ambulance rides though.

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here you go Vi.


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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Enough Said.

Sorry, Dank ... but its not "enough said." Read what you posted again. The founders thought out every word before they wrote our liberty documents. Do you see what I've highlighted in red above? It says PROVIDE for the common defense and PROMOTE the general welfare. Big difference between PROVIDE and PROMOTE don't you think?

Now take your liberal talking points and impress someone who hasn't studied the founding documents. Don't try foisting that crap off on me. You should know better by now anyway.

Vi

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just exactally does permote the general welfare mean to you Vi. Please explain.

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The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United State Constitution, Art. I Sec. 9 Par. 2

"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism" -- Howard Zinn

Provide = Giving.

Like in providing the citizens, through excise taxes and tariffs, a sound military, as the protection of the citizen's rights is one of the FEW legitimate functions of government.

Promote = Encourage.

In other words ... federal government, stay the fuck out of the way and let the people enjoy their freedom and liberty through individual exchange of ideas, goods, services and charity.

Vi

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PROMOTE: to contribute to the growth or prosperity of; to launch; to further. I believe contribute is the key word along with launch. Right out of Mirriam Webster ya old koot! The government is there to contribute to the general welfare and launch programs that would accomplish this task. Sounds pretty simple to this old country boy. And once they get it launched, they further it along,~LOL~.

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Looks like Med has Owned you once again Vi.... Point, Set, Match to quote an old tennis term.

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The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United State Constitution, Art. I Sec. 9 Par. 2

"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism" -- Howard Zinn

Sorry Dankster and Med ... no "ownership" involved here at all.

PROMOTE: "to contribute to the growth or prosperity of"

Please explain how the extraction of taxes, from the labor of the citizens, contributes to the growth and prosperity of those individual citizens.

The government CAN contribute to the growth and prosperity of the citizens by making sure the citizens rights are not violated by another. And that violation would include extracting taxes by force from one citizen in order to give to another citizen. Theft is theft and theft is always immoral, EVEN IF A LAW IS PASSED TO MAKE IT LEGAL.

Vi

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Well, being well versed in the nature of theft. explain the value of your exhorbitant commissions, and how they contribute to society, you parsimonious slut. ~LOL~.

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Like all members of the loonie left, at least those who have one or two brain cells left after being traumatized through the lobotomy given by our government monopolized school systems, you are doing nothing here but trying to shift the basis of the argument.

Now, if you want to start a thread about real estate commissions, start one. But if you want to comment in this thread, debate the issue, which is the difference between "provide" and "promote" as it pertains to constitutional powers of the federal government.

Thanks ...

Vi

PS: Dankdude ... you are welcome to comment as well.

Damn, will 7x, Wavels and I ever complete your educations? <Sheesh!>

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You are the one that brought theft into this thread. I find that interesting as, in my humble estimation, that is basically the nature of your "job", to add to the price of a home 6%, which on a 400,000 home is what, 24,000 fucking dollars, pure fucking theft. No Job that takes a week or two is justified in paying that amount, hence it is outright theft from both the buyer and seller. Theft is what it is. Period.

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