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Old 09-09-2009, 07:38 PM
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Default Obama's address to congress.......
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I give the man credit for standing ground, while playing the partisan card. I disliked the pathos appeal with the Kennedy bit. Overall, it was a solid presidential speech. He did exactly what he needed to do and I predict a reform bill will be passed by the close of October - perhaps sooner.
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I dont think it will

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Well it will. Democrats will be 100% united on any bill seriously pushed forth.
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You are correct Mr. Frog. It will pass wether we want it to or not because dems control it all.
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He should get a two week bump from an adequate sales job of the same old talking points we've been hearing for months. Again, saying it won't cover this or do that is nothing but words, and we've all seen how those can be manipulated or twisted. The problem with the entire speech was there was no hard evidence to back up anything he said. Just more promises and guarantees.

Don't tell me "Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have", because that means nothing and it sure doesn't PREVENT it from happening. If you're going to bother to say anything, it had better be "We will make it a crime for any employer to throw his/her employees on to the public plan against their will". Anything less and it still allows it. I sure as hell didn't hear that... did you?

The only truthful moment I heard during the entire speech was when the Congressman from South Carolina rudely yelled "You lie!"

Even Alan Colmes said he didn't buy the $900 billion cost and the garbage about not adding one dime to the deficit. If they say it's going to cost $900 billion, then it will absolutely end up costing $2 trillion+.

I hope you don't think that by offering to run some pilot program on tort reform, all of a sudden everyone is going to change their minds. I heard the same old positions wrapped up in a partisan speech with moments of animosity and threats to those who oppose his plan. That's it, nothing new to see here folks... move along.
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He should get a two week bump from an adequate sales job of the same old talking points we've been hearing for months. Again, saying it won't cover this or do that is nothing but words, and we've all seen how those can be manipulated or twisted. The problem with the entire speech was there was no hard evidence to back up anything he said. Just more promises and guarantees.

Don't tell me "Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have", because that means nothing and it sure doesn't PREVENT it from happening. If you're going to bother to say anything, it had better be "We will make it a crime for any employer to throw his/her employees on to the public plan against their will". Anything less and it still allows it. I sure as hell didn't hear that... did you?

The only truthful moment I heard during the entire speech was when the Congressman from South Carolina rudely yelled "You lie!"

Even Alan Colmes said he didn't buy the $900 billion cost and the garbage about not adding one dime to the deficit. If they say it's going to cost $900 billion, then it will absolutely end up costing $2 trillion+.

I hope you don't think that by offering to run some pilot program on tort reform, all of a sudden everyone is going to change their minds. I heard the same old positions wrapped up in a partisan speech with moments of animosity and threats to those who oppose his plan. That's it, nothing new to see here folks... move along.
wow dude you are too far lost. you need to go back to school so you wont be so easily fooled by the uneducated lies of the right. if you would just remove the
"dumb fuck brain block" you have you would have heard a man telling nothing but truths.

where is the solution from your republican buddies? you have none. go lay on the couch and keep smokin yourself stupid.
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and alan colmes? thats your democrat example? youre pitiful guy. quit watching fox news its rotting your brain.

that was a fucking disgrace when that incredibly disrespectful repub yelled out lies. not 5 mins after the republican response to the address was com[plete he was already apoligizing.

you are just an example of a dumb ass conservative who is against all change even if its for the greater good. no one wants to hear your opinion.
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The other rabid wing nuts have not chimed in? Could it be the outrageous behavior of South Carolina's Rep Joe Wilson calling the POTUS a liar in the house of congress? What a disgrace...
 

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