Forum Shop Market
Seeds FAQ Tools
SEE OUR MARIJUANA SEED GUIDE FOR THE BEST STRAINS
Looking for Legal Marijuana look no further!
Go Back   Marijuana Growing > Cannabis Cafe > Politics


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1    
Old 08-31-2009, 10:39 AM
shroomer33's Avatar
Ganja Smoker
Pot Head
shroomer33 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beyond the Sun
Posts: 317
shroomer33 will become famous soon enoughshroomer33 will become famous soon enough
Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Default Cindy Sheehan in Obamaland
So where are all you Bush haters now when your man, Obama, is doing all the same things Bush did, even worse I may say?

As Cindy says, your silence is "crashingly deafening."

http://www.counterpunch.com/walsh08262009.html
__________________
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
Reply With Quote
  #2    
Old 08-31-2009, 10:40 AM
shroomer33's Avatar
Ganja Smoker
Pot Head
shroomer33 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beyond the Sun
Posts: 317
shroomer33 will become famous soon enoughshroomer33 will become famous soon enough
Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
The Silence of the Antiwar Movement is Deafening

Cindy Sheehan's Lonely Vigil in Obamaland

By JOHN V. WALSH
Cindy Sheehan will be at Martha’s Vineyard beginning August 25 a short way from Obama’s vacation paradise of the celebrity elite but very far from the Afghanistan and Pakistan and Iraq where the body bags and cemeteries fill up each day as Obama’s wars rage on. She will remain there from August 25 through August 29 and has issued a call for all peace activists to join her there. For those of us close by in the New England states and in New York City, there would seem to be a special obligation to get to Martha’s Vineyard as soon as we can.
A funny thing has happened on Cindy Sheehan’s long road from Crawford, Texas, to Martha’s Vineyard. Many of those who claim to lead the peace movement and who so volubly praised her actions in Crawford, TX, are not to be seen. Nor heard. The silence in fact is deafening, or as Cindy put it in an email to this writer, “crashingly deafening.” Where are the email appeals to join Cindy from The Nation or from AFSC or Peace Action or “Progressive” Democrats of America (PDA) or even Code Pink? Or United for Peace and Justice. (No wonder UFPJ is essentially closing shop, bereft of most of their contributions and shriveling up following the thinly veiled protest behind the “retirement” of Leslie Cagan.) And what about MoveOn although it was long ago thoroughly discredited as principled opponents of war or principled in any way shape or form except slavish loyalty to the “other” War Party. And of course sundry “socialist” organizations are also missing in action since their particular dogma will not be front and center. These worthies and many others have vanished into the fog of Obama’s wars.
Just to be sure, this writer contacted several of the “leaders” of the “official” peace movement in the Boston area – AFSC, Peace Action, Green Party of MA (aka Green Rainbow Party) and some others. Not so much as the courtesy of a reply resulted from this effort - although the GRP at least posted a notice of the action. (It is entirely possible that some of these organizations might mention Cindy’s action late enough and quickly enough so as to cover their derrieres while ensuring that Obama will not be embarrassed by protesting crowds.) We here in the vicinity of Beantown are but a hop, skip and cheap ferry ride from Martha’s Vineyard. Same for NYC. So we have a special obligation to respond to Cindy’s call.
However, not everyone has failed to publicize the event. The Libertarians at Antiwar.com are on the job, and its editor in chief Justin Raimondo wrote a superb column Monday on the hypocritical treatment of Sheehan by the “liberal” establishment. (1) As Raimondo pointed out, Rush Limbaugh captured the hypocrisy of the liberal left in his commentary, thus:
“Now that she’s headed to Martha’s Vineyard, the State-Controlled Media, Charlie Gibson, State-Controlled Anchor, ABC: ‘Enough already.’ Cindy, leave it alone, get out, we’re not interested, we’re not going to cover you going to Martha’s Vineyard because our guy is president now and you’re just a hassle. You’re just a problem. To these people, they never had any true, genuine emotional interest in her. She was just a pawn. She was just a woman to be used and then thrown overboard once they’re through with her and they’re through with her. They don’t want any part of Cindy Sheehan protesting against any war when Obama happens to be president."
Limbaugh has their number, just as they have his. Sometimes it is quite amazing how well each of the war parties can spot the other’s hypocrisy. But Cindy Sheehan is no one’s dupe; she is a very smart and very determined woman who no doubt is giving a lot of White House operatives some very sleepless nights out there on the Vineyard. Good for her.
Obama is an enormous gift to the Empire. Just as he has silenced most of the single-payer movement, an effort characterized by its superb scholarship exceeded only by its timidity, Obama has shut down the antiwar movement, completely in thrall as it is to the Democrat Party and Identity Politics. Why exactly the peace movement has caved to Obama is not entirely clear. Like the single-payer movement, it is wracked by spinelessness, brimming with reverence for authority and a near insatiable appetite to be “part of the crowd.” Those taken in by Obama’s arguments that the increasingly bloody and brutal AfPak war is actually a “war of necessity,” should read Steven Walt’s easy demolition of that “argument.” (2) Basically Obama’s logic is the same as Bush’s moronic rationale that “We are fighting them over there so we do not have to fight them over here.” There is a potential for “safe havens for terrorists,” as the Obamalogues and neocons like to call them, all over the world; and no one can possibly believe the US can invade them all. However, the ones which Israel detests or which allow control of oil pipelines or permit encirclement of China and Russia will see US troops sooner or later.
The bottom line is that everyone in New England and NYC who is a genuine antiwarrior should join the imaginative effort of Cindy Sheehan in Obamaland this week and weekend. We owe it to the many who will otherwise perish at the hands of the war parties of Bush and Obama.
1.See: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/08/23/war-coverage-and-the-obama-cult/
Or go to Antiwar.com and make a contribution while you are there. It’s almost as good as CounterPunch.com.
2.See:http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/08/18/the_safe_haven_myth
John V. Walsh can be reached at John.Endwar@gmail.com He welcomes comments, and he looks forward to seeing crowds of CounterPunchers at Martha’s Vineyard this week and weekend.
__________________
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
Reply With Quote
  #3    
Old 08-31-2009, 11:19 AM
Johnnyorganic's Avatar
just stole your soul.
Mr. Ganja
Johnnyorganic is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Follow me....
Posts: 4,152
Johnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnyorganic has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 22,073, Level: 21 Points: 22,073, Level: 21 Points: 22,073, Level: 21
Activity: 22% Activity: 22% Activity: 22%
From Liberal media darling to nattering fishwife in one election cycle.

I guess Cindy did not get the memo. Afghanistan is the "good" war.

Say it ain't so, Big O!
__________________
Screw organized crime. Grow yer own damn weed!



Don't Talk to Police

Proud member of NORML
Reply With Quote
  #4    
Old 09-01-2009, 01:55 PM
what... huh?'s Avatar
Stoner
Stoner
what... huh? is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 809
what... huh? is just really nicewhat... huh? is just really nicewhat... huh? is just really nicewhat... huh? is just really nice
Points: 2,785, Level: 7 Points: 2,785, Level: 7 Points: 2,785, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Deafening.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImTheDude View Post
I wont speak as unintelligable and unclear in a way that even the most intelligent people can't follow me.
Reply With Quote
  #5    
Old 09-01-2009, 02:10 PM
Stoney McFried's Avatar
Stuff my turkey,baby.
Mr. Ganja
Stoney McFried is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Earth.
Posts: 12,005
Stoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond reputeStoney McFried has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 45,583, Level: 30 Points: 45,583, Level: 30 Points: 45,583, Level: 30
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
I don't like or agree with the war.But I still hate Bush!
__________________
The rousing tale of a young gynecologist:
Now that I've made you laugh,Sign my petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/420now/petition.html
Reply With Quote
  #6    
Old 09-01-2009, 02:17 PM
natrone23's Avatar
Mr.Ganja
Mr. Ganja
natrone23 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,730
natrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to behold
Points: 18,565, Level: 19 Points: 18,565, Level: 19 Points: 18,565, Level: 19
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
Obama is doing exactly what he said he was going to do concerning Iraq and Afghanistan.

He made it perfectly clear during the election that he was going to gradually withdraw troops from Iraq and he also clearly stated he would add more troops to Afghanistan/pak.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackerJax View Post
Prediction:
Republican SWEEP in 23 months. (write it down stoners)
Reply With Quote
  #7    
Old 09-01-2009, 02:31 PM
shroomer33's Avatar
Ganja Smoker
Pot Head
shroomer33 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beyond the Sun
Posts: 317
shroomer33 will become famous soon enoughshroomer33 will become famous soon enough
Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by natrone23 View Post
Obama is doing exactly what he said he was going to do concerning Iraq and Afghanistan.

He made it perfectly clear during the election that he was going to gradually withdraw troops from Iraq and he also clearly stated he would add more troops to Afghanistan/pak.
that's right. He certainly said he'd do what he's doing, but the media never painted him as a warmonger, and the typical Obama supporter thought he was against war. I can't tell you how many times I see antiwar stickers on cars right next to peace signs and Obama stickers.
No matter what Obama said, most of his supporters thought he would end all US war.
And now that he's bombing the world just like Bush did, they don't care because their man, Obama is doing it and not some evil Republican. But there is no mention anywhere of the evil that the Democrats do.

It is disgusting.
__________________
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
Reply With Quote
  #8    
Old 09-01-2009, 02:43 PM
natrone23's Avatar
Mr.Ganja
Mr. Ganja
natrone23 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,730
natrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to beholdnatrone23 is a splendid one to behold
Points: 18,565, Level: 19 Points: 18,565, Level: 19 Points: 18,565, Level: 19
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUV69LZbCNQ
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackerJax View Post
Prediction:
Republican SWEEP in 23 months. (write it down stoners)
Reply With Quote
  #9    
Old 09-01-2009, 03:10 PM
what... huh?'s Avatar
Stoner
Stoner
what... huh? is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 809
what... huh? is just really nicewhat... huh? is just really nicewhat... huh? is just really nicewhat... huh? is just really nice
Points: 2,785, Level: 7 Points: 2,785, Level: 7 Points: 2,785, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
I strongly disagree with the Administration's plans to "pause" the long overdue removal of our combat brigades from Iraq. We cannot wage war without end in Iraq while ignoring mounting costs to our troops and their families, our security and our economy. While the Administration puts our drawdown on permanent pause, bin Laden is on the loose, Afghanistan is sliding toward chaos, and we're spending billions of dollars a week in Baghdad instead of helping Americans who are struggling here at home. Our military leaders are concerned that Iraq is setting back our ability to respond to other priorities, and a Blue Ribbon Panel warned late last month that our National Guard is short of the equipment it needs to address crises at home. Instead of false promises and a faulty strategy, the American people need a rapid and responsible removal of our combat brigades that relieves the burden on our military, pressures the Iraqis to reconcile, and allows us to finally focus on the priorities that George Bush has neglected.

-Barak Obama



Obama says he would withdraw from Iraq by end-2008


Sep 12, 2007

" 'I am here to say that we have to begin to end this war now,' the Illinois senator said in excerpts from a speech he was to deliver later in Iowa. The excerpts were released by his presidential campaign.


He said he would immediately begin to pull out troops engaged in combat operations at a pace of one or two brigades every month, to be completed by the end of 2008."

Obama's Promise to withdraw troops in Iraq by 2009




Obama: U.S. to withdraw most Iraq troops by August 2010


February 27, 2009

"Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end,"


Obama confirms Iraq US troop withdrawal by 2011


"Barack Obama today reaffirmed his pledge to withdraw US troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 and sought to steel Americans' resolve as he sends more forces to confront the Afghanistan Taliban."


Yeah... So... where exactly on the campaign trail do you see the promise to increase troops in Afghanistan? I can't find it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImTheDude View Post
I wont speak as unintelligable and unclear in a way that even the most intelligent people can't follow me.
Reply With Quote
  #10    
Old 09-01-2009, 03:13 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,116
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30 Points: 44,792, Level: 30
Activity: 8% Activity: 8% Activity: 8%
So far, Obama has killed ONE MILLION innocent Afghani civilians. (I got this info from the same place Med-'O-Mao gets his stats on Iraq from).
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
 

Tags
cindy, obamaland, sheehan

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Thread

Thread Starter

Forum

Replies

Last Post

SOG growers wanted !!! sparkafire Hydroponics / Aeroponics 2623 11-26-2009 02:18 PM
Where can I find c-99 seeds? (bros grimm) lurkmaster Seed and Strain Reviews 107 11-19-2009 12:43 PM
Cinderella 99, Cindy 99, C99??? F4t4LShot Seed and Strain Reviews 8 09-22-2009 03:39 PM
Where ya been? Organic. White Widow Skunk, Lr2, Widow Cindy. dirt clean Grow Journals 52 07-02-2009 02:14 AM
Super Sweet Cindy docjohn Grow Journals 16 03-29-2009 08:21 PM

Posting Rules

You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Come Check out a new Poker Forum for the online poker community

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:34 PM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2