What price do you put on your freedom ?
Your neighbors?

Do you believe one man should obligate another? Do you support using force against those who would reject a mandatory program?

he got the wrong whorehouse? is that your argument? really? thats your argument? he called the whorehouse the wrong name? you are right, we should ignore historical facts like fanny mae and freddie mac. or the 1 billion dollar clunker program that turns into a monster boondoggle. yep they didnt happen they are just talking points. but the fucking whorehouse argument? wow, heard it all.

yes, we really need to crack down on those drug companies and insurance companies. we should run them out of town on a rail.....right out of business. yep, that will really help healthcare. BRILLIANT

Hey Schleprock, do you have a reading comprehension problem? The mustang ranch was auctioned off in bankruptcy court which is what happens to all businesses that cannot repay their debts in bankruptcy court. The govt never ran ANY whorehouse. Should I draw you a picture with crayons?

The government never ran any whorehouse? What do you call Congress?

Your brilliance, or lack of it has already been established. You really think its ok for companies to make billions a year on the backs of sick and dying people? Pathetic.

Do you really think it's okay to force people at the point of a gun to be subjected to a mandatory government program? Do you not believe in freedom of choice?

what is to stop the government... whoops i mean the same pharma corps (now under government control) to raise those prices ten fold?

I think a more relevant question is what is to stop the FDA from continuing to approve drugs that are later proved dangerous and then denying allegations of harm stemming from those drugs when the socialist insurance bureaucracy receives kickbacks from the pharmaceutical corporations?

The solution to problems stemming from corporate corruption is not more government, because government has shown that it does nothing to discourage corruption and a lot to encourage it. The best solution to the problems perceived with big corporations running the nation through the government is not to increase the size of government but to reduce the size of government and reduce its influence and thus cut the influence that the big corporations are able to get.

You can not reduce corruption by handing control of the markets over to the government. This has been demonstrated by the corruption, golden parachutes and faulty accounting practices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It is irrational to believe that corporations will reign themselves in if the government has a marked willingness to bail them out, and is controlled by unelected bureaucrats who can hide anonymous in the background free from public scrutiny.

To believe that the solution is to hand control of the 16% of the United States Economy that comprises medical care to the government, despite the fact that the CBO has admitted that the size of the GDP related to medical care will balloon to 22% of the economy under Obama's hellish plan, is absurd. How do you possibly propose that any one believe that government will not engage in shady dealings with the corporations? Or blatantly ignore their misbehavior as benefits bureaucrats and politicians?

More viable solutions, if the case is truly making sure that "everyone" is insured, despite the demonstratable facts that not everyone needs to be insured to receive medical care, or even wants to be insured, would be to simply lower taxes so that they can afford medical care. Or, perhaps offer deductions for the cost of medical insurance.

What is ironic, is that the partisans like Obama routinely scream about the cost, and present only half the facts. The $10,000 plans that they mention for families only cost 25% - 30% as much in less regulated states that do not dictate the need to cover elective surgeries such as gender changes, plastic surgery, and other cosmetic surgery that does nothing to improve health and has not been studied for its negative effects.

Would it not indicate, that as it is possible to get those $10,000 plans for $2,500 - $3,300 in less regulated states, that the solution is not more government intervention but less government intervention?

Some how the government is making a false argument that the solution to problems caused by it, is to allow it more control. The control that the government had over insurance in those high cost states is precisely what caused the problem in the first place.

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Libertas inaestimabilis res est - Liberty is a thing beyond all price. | Sic Semper Tyrannis

aspartame comes to mind...

not even a pill, just an artificial sweetener


before aspertame was cleared as a food additive it was classified as a bioweapon

I don't know how any one can stand diet soda, stuff tastes horrible.

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Libertas inaestimabilis res est - Liberty is a thing beyond all price. | Sic Semper Tyrannis