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Old 08-10-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default How the Democrats Blew It in Only Eight Months
By Alexander Cockburn, The Nation. Posted August 10, 2007.

Thanks to the Democrats' inaction on Iraq and compliance with Bush on the FISA bill, Congress now has a "confidence" rating of 14 percent, the lowest since Gallup started asking the question in 1973 and five points lower than Republicans scored last year.

Led by Democrats since the start of this year, Congress now has a "confidence" rating of 14 percent, the lowest since Gallup started asking the question in 1973 and five points lower than Republicans scored last year.

The voters put the Democrats in to end the war, and it's escalating. The Democrats voted the money for the surge and the money for the next $459.6 billion military budget. Their latest achievement was to provide enough votes in support of Bush to legalize warrantless wiretapping for "foreign suspects whose communications pass through the United States." Enough Democrats joined Republicans to make this a 227-183 victory for Bush. The Democrats control the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi could have stopped the bill in its tracks if she'd wanted to. But she didn't. The Democrats' game is to go along with the White House agenda while stirring up dust storms to blind the base to their failure to bring the troops home or restore constitutional government.

The row over the US Attorneys and the conduct of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has always been something of a typhoon in a teaspoon. The Democrats love it, since they imagine it portrays them to the public as resolute guardians of the impartial administration of justice, a concept whose credibility most Americans sensibly deride. The Democrats now plan to track Gonzales's firing of the US Attorneys back to that comic opera villain of the Bush era, Karl Rove, another great provoker of dust storms.

The one Democrat acting on principle in the Gonzales affair has been Senator Russ Feingold. He at least tried to dig into the visit of chief White House counsel Gonzales, as he then was, to the bedside of Attorney General John Ashcroft, to get him to sign off on the illegal wiretaps. And how did the Democrat-controlled Congress deal with Feingold's efforts to nail Gonzales for his efforts to undermine the Constitution and for his prevarications under oath? It promptly legalized the eavesdropping.

Just as the Democrats work tirelessly to demonstrate to the voters that it makes zero difference which party controls Congress, the political establishment forces all candidates for the presidential nomination to sever any compromising ties to sanity and common sense.

Right now they're hosing down Barack Obama because he said in the YouTube debate in South Carolina that he would be prepared to meet with Kim Jong Il, Hugo Chávez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Fidel Castro to hash over problems face to face. The pundits whacked him for demonstrating "inexperience." Experienced leaders order the CIA to murder such men.

Then Obama drew even fiercer fire by saying he would take nukes off the table in the war on terrorism in Afghanistan and Pakistan. "I think it would be a profound mistake for us to use nuclear weapons in any circumstance," Obama told the AP on August 2, adding, after a pause, "involving civilians." Then he quickly said, "Let me scratch that. There's been no discussion of nuclear weapons. That's not on the table."

I'm beginning to respect this man. He displays sagacity well beyond the norm for candidates seeking the Oval Office. He comprehends, if only in mid-sentence, that when you drop a nuclear bomb, it will kill civilians. He also realizes that strafing Waziristan with thermonuclear devices in the hopes of nailing Osama bin Laden is a foolish way to proceed.

So Obama is being flayed for his "inexperience," first and foremost by Hillary Clinton, who permits no table setting that does not include a couple of nuclear weapons next to the sugar bowl. To recoup, Obama has declared his readiness as Commander in Chief to order US forces to hotly pursue Osama into Pakistan, whatever the government of Pakistan might think of this onslaught on its sovereignty.

Has the left the capacity to influence the conduct of the Democrats? In terms of substantive achievement the answer thus far has been no. People didn't like it when I wrote here a month ago that the antiwar movement was at a low ebb. They invoke the polls showing that 70 percent of Americans want the troops to come home. This is presumptuous, like a barking dog claiming it made the moon go down. It didn't take an antiwar movement to make the people antiwar. People looked at the casualty figures and the newspaper headlines and drew the obvious conclusion that the war is a bust. Their attention is already shifting to the economic crisis: housing meltdown, car sales meltdown, credit crisis, threats from the Chinese to destroy the dollar. What war?

The left is as easily distracted, currently by the phantasm of impeachment. Why all this clamor to launch a proceeding surely destined to fail, aimed at a duo who will be out of the White House in sixteen months? Pursue them for war crimes after they've stepped down. Mount an international campaign of the sort that has Henry Kissinger worrying at airports that there might be a lawyer with a writ standing next to the man with the limo sign. Right now the impeachment campaign is a distraction from the war and the paramount importance of ending it.

For sure, there are actions around the country: Quakers and Unitarians picketing outside shopping centers, campus vigils, resolutions by city councils and so forth. It's all pretty quiet, in a conflict that has now -- as my brother Patrick recently pointed out -- gone on longer than the First World War. At the liberal blogger convention, Yearly Kos, held the first weekend in August, the organizers nixed any serious strategy session on the war. John Stauber of PR Watch had to force an impromptu (and very successful) session with leaders of the Iraq Veterans Against the War.

A war people hate, Gitmo, Bush's police-state executive orders of July 17 -- the Democrats have signed the White House dance card on all of them. And guess what? Just as their poll numbers are going down, Bush's are going up, by five points in Gallup from early July. People are beginning to think the surge is working, courtesy of the New York Times. So are we better or worse off since the Democrats won back Congress?
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"The voters put the Democrats in to end the war, and it's escalating."

Wrong-o. The ultra-left may have voted the Democrats in to "end the war," but the majority of voters who voted for the Democrats voted for them because they promised to clean up the corruption the Republicans left behind. Of course they won't clean up the corruption because they are even more corrupt than the Republicans. AND ... they won't end the war either because they realize that this is a war we MUST fight.

Quite frankly, I think its time both sides stop believing corrupt politicians. I mean, if you married a whore, would you expect her to be faithful to you?

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"The voters put the Democrats in to end the war, and it's escalating."

Wrong-o. The ultra-left may have voted the Democrats in to "end the war," but the majority of voters who voted for the Democrats voted for them because they promised to clean up the corruption the Republicans left behind. Of course they won't clean up the corruption because they are even more corrupt than the Republicans. AND ... they won't end the war either because they realize that this is a war we MUST fight.

Quite frankly, I think its time both sides stop believing corrupt politicians.

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Vi I don't know which mound of sand you keep burying your head in, but the majority of people in the country (Middle America) is pretty sick of this war. As far as Corruption... The republicans pull it off to such an art form that it would make even the most leftist democrat envious.
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"The voters put the Democrats in to end the war, and it's escalating."

Wrong-o. The ultra-left may have voted the Democrats in to "end the war," but the majority of voters who voted for the Democrats voted for them because they promised to clean up the corruption the Republicans left behind. Of course they won't clean up the corruption because they are even more corrupt than the Republicans. AND ... they won't end the war either because they realize that this is a war we MUST fight.

Quite frankly, I think its time both sides stop believing corrupt politicians. I mean, if you married a whore, would you expect her to be faithful to you?

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I would close down the whole operation if I could. Then have a national lottery with a percentage to be determined by population from each state picked without qualification to go to washington with a 50K a year salary + housing expenses not to exceed the national average. Make lobbying a crime punishable by ten years in a federal prison and a 1 million dollar fine. Even Clem Cadiddlehopper could do a better job than these clowns. The current president would be indited for crimes against humanity along with Cheney and all the neo-cons that started the wars, and the 3-4 hundred clowns that went to DC could pick one to be President and Vice Pres. I don't think we'd be any worse off. Do away with the Bi-carmel legislature and have a uni-carmel house with the president presiding. Fire all the supreme court justices and make those positions put into a lottery of judges also. oh I could have so much fun if I were only King. ~LOL~
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Yeah, Med ... most Kings, Tsars and dictators felt exactly like your do: "If only I were in charge!"

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Yeah, Med ... most Kings, Tsars and dictators felt exactly like your do: "If only I were in charge!"

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So what, I'm not, who put the ram in rama lama ding dong? Dorkwad.
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So what, I'm not, who put the ram in rama lama ding dong? Dorkwad.

Now, now children ... if you keep it up,, I'll have to set you down in separate corners.
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You and which NFL running back? You haven't met Med, have you Dank? I'll just stand behind Med and stay safe.

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You haven't met me in person either.... I'm a pretty big guy.
In Fact I'm as big as an NFL running back.... 6'1" 260 Lbs.
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In Fact I'm as big as an NFL running back.... 6'1" 260 Lbs.
Med= 8ft tall and bullit proof: ~LOL~ That was when I was younger, I'm now just a little old man, with a big gun-~LOL~.
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