How We Can Take the Constitution Back From the Brink - Page 2

ViRedd · #11 08-31-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

Bush intentionally stacked the supreme court, this is a fact. the court is lop sided when before it was balanced. if there is no balance to the supreme court either side (conservative or liberal) can and will take away constitutional rights.

Did you miss my point, Dank? There isn't anything in the Constitution about POLITICAL balance on the Supreme Court. Judges are supposed to be NON-political in their decisions. Their decisions should consist of one thing: "Is the law before us constitutional or not constitutional?" The Ultra-Left believes the court should be political. Conservatives believe the court should be neutral and rule on the law only. Big difference.

And by the way, the term "Stacking the Court" came about when FDR couldn't get his UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws through a U.S. Supreme Court who knew what its duties actually were. So, FDR tried to ADD more members to the court who would rule in favor of his UNCONSTITUTIONAL programs. In other words, FDR was trying to politicize the USSC. Conversely, the appointments Bush has made will try to DE-politicize the court. In which case do you think our constitutional rights are safer?

Vi

Dankdude · #12 08-31-2007, 08:32 PM

Yup I noticed the point, Bush passed a shit load of unconstitutional laws and he put those people in place to make sure his Unconstitutional laws are upheld. (you and I both know that the supreme court rarely reverses itself)
By the same token as you say Abortion is unconstitutional, but the Supreme Court make it the law of the land back in the early 1970's. What I am saying is that you say that all the liberal Judges are activist... (bullshit from the religious conservatives) So-called Conservative Judges can be just as activist as you and the religious right accuse the Liberal judges of being.
When the liberal Judges from the 9th Circuit Court ruled in favor of Medical marijuana you said it was the right thing to do. I'm saying that once the conservative Judges start to take away your personal right to use marijuana as an alternative form of medicine you will be the first to raise holy hell.

Think before you have to win an argument with me at all cost, there are advantages to having liberal judges on the bench. We would not have a lot of the civil rights we have now with out them.

ViRedd · #13 08-31-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

Yup I noticed the point, Bush passed a shit load of unconstitutional laws and he put those people in place to make sure his Unconstitutional laws are upheld. (you and I both know that the supreme court rarely reverses itself)
By the same token as you say Abortion is unconstitutional, but the Supreme Court make it the law of the land back in the early 1970's. What I am saying is that you say that all the liberal Judges are activist... (bullshit from the religious conservatives) So-called Conservative Judges can be just as activist as you and the religious right accuse the Liberal judges of being.
When the liberal Judges from the 9th Circuit Court ruled in favor of Medical marijuana you said it was the right thing to do. I'm saying that once the conservative Judges start to take away your personal right to use marijuana as an alternative form of medicine you will be the first to raise holy hell.

Think before you have to win an argument with me at all cost, there are advantages to having liberal judges on the bench. We would not have a lot of the civil rights we have now with out them.

Name the "shitload of unconstitutional laws" that Bush has passed, Dank. Last I heard, the Executive doesn't pass laws, but only enforces them. The Legislative Branch passes laws, Dank, and the President either signs them into law or vetos them.

I agreed with the 9th circuit and disagreed with the "conservative" court. Although, I DO believe the 9th circuit is the looniest bunch of liberal hacks to come down the pike. I'm not alone on this either. They are the most overturned federal court in the land.

On your last comment, Dank ... liberals (as the term is used today) have been the leaders of discriminatory practices throughout our history. They still are. Aren't they the ones who believe minorities don't have the personal fortutude to raise themselves out of poverty without government programs?

Vi

Dankdude · #14 08-31-2007, 09:31 PM

Your so full of shit your eyes are brown vi.
If I didn't have to go pick my son up from work, I'd pick your comments apart. But Time is not on my side at this point.
You better check your scources vi, White Supremist identify themselves as republicans.
The Unconstitutional laws that were passed is called the Patriot act. Which John Ashcroft pushed through congress under Bush's Orders. Now This is all I have to say on this subject for tonight as I have to leave to pick my son up.

ViRedd · #15 08-31-2007, 10:22 PM

Well, better luck in refuting my points tomorrow, Dank.

Vi

By the way ... If White Supremists identify themselves as Republicans, is that any more serious than Communists identifying themselves as Democrats?

medicineman · #16 08-31-2007, 10:45 PM

Not to interfere in a good fight, But the gist of bush's constitutional malfeasance comes with the hundreds of signing statements he has added to bills going through the political process. If Bush doesn't like a law, he writes on the bill that it doesn't apply to him, a signature, confirms this, thus signing statements, he also changes the meaning of the bills to suit his needs, an absolute constitutional violation. This alone is grounds for impeachment, let alone all the other evil things he's done.

ViRedd · #17 09-01-2007, 06:58 PM

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Not to interfere in a good fight, But the gist of bush's constitutional malfeasance comes with the hundreds of signing statements he has added to bills going through the political process. If Bush doesn't like a law, he writes on the bill that it doesn't apply to him, a signature, confirms this, thus signing statements, he also changes the meaning of the bills to suit his needs, an absolute constitutional violation. This alone is grounds for impeachment, let alone all the other evil things he's done.

Link, please. And ... please don't refer me to moveon.org or the uscp website.

Vi

medicineman · #18 09-01-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

Link, please. And ... please don't refer me to moveon.org or the uscp website.

Vi

What, you only believe cut and paste? Open your eyes and look, it is right in front of you. You don't have to lick boots anymore, you're old enough to think for yourself.

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