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Old 08-09-2007, 04:05 PM
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Matthew 6:5-8

5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

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Was an Anti-Capitalist

Matthew 19:23-26

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"

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Luke 12:15
15 Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."

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Was a Hippy
  • Wore sandals
  • Had a beard
  • Had long hair
  • Spent extended amounts of time in the dessert by himself

Matthew 13:27

27 "The owner's servants came to him and said, `Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?'

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Also see Genesis 1:11 - 12

Was a Surfer
  • Jesus "walked" on water (Dude!).

Matthew 14:22-25
22 Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowd.

23 After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone,

24 but the boat was already a considerable distance from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.

25 During the fourth watch of the night Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake.

26 When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. "It's a ghost," they said, and cried out in fear.

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Was a Communist/Socialist (perhaps the first)

Note: Both Jesus and Karl Marx were Jewish

Matthew 19:21

21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.

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Acts 4:32-35

32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had.
33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all.
34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

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Was an Anarchist

Mark 10:42-45

42 Jesus called them together and said, "You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them.
43 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant,
44 and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all.
45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."

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Was Antiwar

Matthew 5:21

21 "You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, `Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.'

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Matthew 5:44

44 "Love your enemies"

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Matthew 5:9

9 "Blessed are the peacemakers"

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I Peter 3:8-9

8 Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.
9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.

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Romans 12:17
17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.

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Romams 12:21
21 "Be not overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good."

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James 4:1
1 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you?

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Was Against the Death Penalty

Matthew 5:38-39
38 "You have heard that it was said, `Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'
39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

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Was Pro-Choice (proven by what Moses wrote)

Exodus 21:22-23
(Word of God from Moses)

22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely [1] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows.
23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,

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John 5:46
46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.

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Wouldn't Own a Gun

Matthew 26:52
52 "Put up again thy sword into his place; for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

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Would Support Gay Rights
Interestingly, there is not one mention of homosexuality in the gospel. You'd think that was all the gospel is about, considering how some Christians emphasize gay and lesbian issues. There isn't a mention of whether Jesus was straight or not. An argument against homosexuality for Christians is that the purpose of life is to reproduce, even though jesus didn't have kids.

Other Things Jesus Would Do Today (No references, but you know he would)
Jesus would picket in solidarity with workers

Jesus would do something about the politicians cutting welfare and using his name for their own political advancement

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Old 08-09-2007, 04:09 PM
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Vi Before you post up the Jesus Was No Leftist Article, I already read it and the writer has no scripture to back his position....
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Jesus was alot of things.
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:29 PM
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Dear Dankster ...

When Jesus said "give up all your possessions," he was talking about giving them up voluntarily ... not by force at the point of government's gun. I don't think Jesus believed in legalized theft, Dank.

And, Jesus was a very practable person. If he were alive today, he'd be driving a huge 4x4 SUV, perhaps even a Hummer. After all Dank, he had twelve disciples to haul around and he spent a lot of time out in the desert.

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Jesus didn't care about politics. "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." end game.

some of the points are logical but it goes south when you get to the gay rights stuff. read up on what he said about marriage, divorce and sins against the body (temple)... oh yeah, your mom was a minister so you already knew those things...






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At least I had the scriptures to back up my argument.... Homosexuality was only covered in the Old Testament, not in the New Testament. If Jesus taught anything he taught tolerance... So there you are wrong 7x.... I doubt you have the biblical education that I do... I've only been studying the bible since I was 10, (1972).

And yes My mom is a Licensed Minister with the Assembly of God Church.
I highly doubt you can beat me on biblical teachings my friend.
Vi you have any scripture to back up your assumption.
What Christ taught was the purist form of Socialism. Go back and read your bible Vi.
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And did I hear Dank say that Jesus was a Marxist because he was a Jew? Kinda like, all Jews are Marxists? Hey Dank ... go tell that one to Dennis Prager. *lol*

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Tongue and cheek Vi, I thought you of all would recognize that.... Kind of Like Jesus being a Surfer. And you talk about Liberals having no sense of Humor.
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Tongue and cheek Vi, I thought you of all would recognize that.... Kind of Like Jesus being a Surfer. And you talk about Liberals having no sense of Humor.
Well, its true, Dank. You Libbies don't have a sense of humor. Proof: My SUV/Hummer thingie was a joke. Here's your reaction to it:

"Vi you have any scripture to back up your assumption."

Or, were you referring to my statement that Jesus didn't believe in legalized theft? If so, "Thou shalt not steal" is pretty clear to me. Even though Jesus didn't say that, he DID say: " "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another" (John 13:34).

So, "loving one another" would mean give to each other in time of need on a VOLUNTARY basis. If that's not what Jesus meant, then where does he allude to FORCED charity? And by the way Dank ... socialism the way its meant in today's world means wealth redistribution by government edict. In other words, forced charity.

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Old 08-09-2007, 09:44 PM
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what's a libbie?

max weber has your answers. if not, stephen hawking might but idk if he's published them.
 

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