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Old 08-06-2009, 04:34 PM
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Default Obama rolls out the "Rat on your neighbor" Campaign
Looks like Obama is preparing to start making an "Enemy" list. Basically he wants to know if your neighbor does not agree with his Politics and he wants you to rat him out.

http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel...know-about-it/

http://redlense.blogspot.com/2009/08...nitiative.html

http://blatheringsblog.com/?p=3421

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309413/posts
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:39 PM
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Now THAT is a biased new's source! Wow!

Anyway, what if they're merely trying to clear up misinformation. A lot of it is out there. Look at this site. There are 4 people I can name spreading absolute lies about the proposal. They're saying the government will watch your bank accounts, force everyone to get on the government plan over private ones, give death pills to the elderly, etc... These claims are ridiculous.

However, if that is a WH press release, then it does seem a bit extreme. I don't even know how they have the time to monitor what a website is saying or why they care. So I agree in one sense in that the presumably true statement is a bit frightening. Even if they are simply keeping tabs, I would want to know why.

But as I said, it would be hard to accept any piece of news as fact when it comes from a site dedicated to red policies only. It screams bias. I'm looking for another mention of this right now and will get back.
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I doubt the intention of that message on the white house blog is anywhere near as sinister as those links you provided make it out to be.

Sounds like a pretty legitimate request. I mean, how can they dispel the misinformation if they don't know what it is that's being said?
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biased! doom and gloom.... you watch fox news doncha? only fox news right?
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Now THAT is a biased new's source! Wow!

Anyway, what if they're merely trying to clear up misinformation. A lot of it is out there. Look at this site. There are 4 people I can name spreading absolute lies about the proposal. They're saying the government will watch your bank accounts, force everyone to get on the government plan over private ones, give death pills to the elderly, etc... These claims are ridiculous.

However, if that is a WH press release, then it does seem a bit extreme. I don't even know how they have the time to monitor what a website is saying or why they care. So I agree in one sense in that the presumably true statement is a bit frightening. Even if they are simply keeping tabs, I would want to know why.

But as I said, it would be hard to accept any piece of news as fact when it comes from a site dedicated to red policies only. It screams bias. I'm looking for another mention of this right now and will get back.

I hit the post button before I had edited all the sources, there is more than 1 source listed there. As I know the first thing you need to do to disprove anything is to first attack the source as unreliable or biased.
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how about this i think our president is a pinko commie and is trying to socialize america their have been an amazing amount of precedents made that in manies opine is in direct opposition to FREEDOM

obama you suck

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the first thing to do to combat ignorance is propaganda

not interogation where is this going

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Here is the actual White House post.

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Opponents of health insurance reform may find the truth a little inconvenient, but as our second president famously said, "facts are stubborn things."


Scary chain emails and videos are starting to percolate on the internet, breathlessly claiming, for example, to "uncover" the truth about the President’s health insurance reform positions.


In this video, Linda Douglass, the communications director for the White House’s Health Reform Office, addresses one example that makes it look like the President intends to "eliminate" private coverage, when the reality couldn’t be further from the truth.


For the record, the President has consistently said that if you like your insurance plan, your doctor, or both, you will be able to keep them. He has even proposed eight consumer protections relating specifically to the health insurance industry.


There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
Do you not frequent this website?

The type of crap going on here is what they want to see. If they don't know what your brand of crazy is how can they answer any of your questions? It is funny there are certain words that I can now pick up on to know which type of propaganda people are swallowing and am starting to get a better idea of where it started from.

You don't realize but most the crap that you see on blogs is pure imagination. They are falsifying it to make Obama look like he is evil, and if I was him I would want to keep up on it too.

Hell I would actually like to see politicians on the net going to blogs and trying to have a conversation with the people that are most afraid of them.

I always try to understand where people are formulating their ideas because if you don't know that you cannot hope to have a conversation with them. You don't realize that you are arguing a point that may seem like the same thing, but are actually worlds apart.

Like talking about taxes, if I am trying to say that it is a 3% difference that was the same as Clinton, and it is just repealing the cuts Bush put in place. It will fall on deaf ears when they are saying that it is too high. We sound like we are talking about the same thing, but I just wouldn't get that they mean ANY taxes is too much.

You have to know where someone is coming from before you can talk with them and get anywhere.
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:52 AM
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Look at your last paragraph there Hanimmal, thats what were talking about. We aren't talking about health care in this thread, please keep to topic.
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